Mixer for 38-8?

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Naw...
Im just gonna wait till I see a 312 come down...I would like the mixer and machine to match...it'll be cool when I get it...but I guess there are a whole set of things to look at for mixers that are different than R2R's...
 
Naw...
Im just gonna wait till I see a 312 come down...I would like the mixer and machine to match...it'll be cool when I get it...but I guess there are a whole set of things to look at for mixers that are different than R2R's...

You can also try Tascam M208. It's an 8 channel. I got mine for 70 bucks :)
 
So what do you reccomend.

Let me ask you a question. Do you plan to record 8 tracks at once, for example with a band situation where you're recording "live" or will you be recording mainly yourself, 1 - 4 tracks at a time? In the latter situation, all you need is just about any TASCAM 4 buss mixer and those that fall in the category include the TASCAM M-30, TASCAM M-208 / M-216, TASCAM M-308 (B), TASCAM M-312 (B), TASCAM 320 (B). This is not to say, however, that the boards are not capable of 8 track at once recording. Please see this following link for example M-30 diagrams [scroll down a bit]: https://homerecording.com/bbs/showthread.php?t=236875&highlight=tascam Anyway, these boards are fairly easily found on the used market and, especially the first ones on the list are pretty inexpensive. You, however, will have to find one which is in good condition (obviously) and also one you won't receive smashed as the result of poor packing [if shipped]. If I had to start you off with something, I'd look for ANY of the above boards.
 
Any recomendations??? Mainly newer mixers...

I dunno... this thread started with that question, and it seemed to start twice as though nothing between post #1 and #5 had transpired.

https://homerecording.com/bbs/showpost.php?p=2658790&postcount=1
https://homerecording.com/bbs/showpost.php?p=2661819&postcount=5

You got a lot of recommendations and then bought something completely different without running it by us. I'm not sure how important our input could be.

The mixer you have would work, but it's not near ideal, so we're in the position of either talking you into something else or trying to help you do what most of us could do... make whatever we have work.

You’re making it harder than it should be, for you and us.

Good luck, but I’m out…

:)
 
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DK thats what I been looking for...PM me...

Don't get me wrong, I'm not selling it :)
I got it off ebay. I don't know why it ended up so cheap, but there was so many of those on ebay at that time (several years ago). Before that I've tried Mackie and even Berhinger, didn't like those at all...poor flat sound.
 
I am currently researching a Tascam M-1508. Im trying to figure out if it has the 8 outs that I need that most mixers nowadays seem to be missing...Thanks
 
Marty, why all the questions when you seem to know best? :rolleyes::cool:

Many of us have taken a lot of time [in good faith] and did some good 'ol leg work to help you out and you seem completely oblivious to it.

Next time you ask, you may have trouble getting a response. Somethin' to think 'bout.
 
Marty, why all the questions when you seem to know best? :rolleyes::cool:

Many of us have taken a lot of time [in good faith] and did some good 'ol leg work to help you out and you seem completely oblivious to it.

Next time you ask, you may have trouble getting a response. Somethin' to think 'bout.

Well Im not sure what you are saying. I started this thread to get some ideas from members here what they would use in my situation. I got alot of really good answers. The Fact that Im still asking only means that I still havent found anything I like yet. Sorry if I didnt just run out and buy immediatly the first thing suggested and close the thread.
Its kinda hard looking at mixers when they are very deceptive about how many inputs/outputs and all the options. So when I see something somewhere else and I want to know quick if it would work in my case Im sorry if I dont come and ask/post here...that is what it is for.
I guess my current state about it all is that I would like something vintage but I dont fancy waiting 1-2 months for a 208 or 308 to come down the ebaypike. I wouldnt rule out something new tho. But I want basic not something with all of these extra fancy dancy options that I dont need and dont wat to pay for...Sorry
 
I'd get...

an M30 for the most basic stuff, an M308/312 for more extensive I/O, or an M320 or M520 for the really big guns. E'thing I've listed is 4-buss except the M520, which is 8 buss, however they'll each support 8 outputs to an 8 track recorder. The 4-buss machines support 2 tracks per buss output, as has been explained above. I'd even consider a 388 as a mixer to support a 38, with required M-1B line mixer as 'cue' monitor. That's kind of esoteric, but the 388's mixer section is fine and very competitive.:eek::rolleyes:

I'm not much for the M1508/1516 or the M2600, but they're fine mixers too.:eek::rolleyes:

The 38 was originally paired with the M30 and M35. Oh yeah, let me not forget to mention the M35, which is a pretty nice mixer.

All these mixers I've mentioned are heavyweight hardware, on a different par than today's mixers. I'm not much on modern mixers, but they're alright if you're so inclined.:eek::rolleyes:

Of the mixers I've mentioned, the M35 is probably one of the most unique and affordable "sleeper" deals out there,... if u can find one.:eek::rolleyes: The M35 originally came with a 'sidecar' expansion board, the M35EX, which is really rare and hard to find. Sometimes you can find an M35 and M35EX listed together as a set.

Bottom line for me is the M30, which is a little more stripped in features than the rest, but it's adequate I/O provides flexibility beyond what you'd expect on first glance. The M30 is usually easy to find and affordable, & sounds nice with slightly more limitations than the M300's, but with some creative thinking the M30 can do the job well enough.

If u want something that's fully equipped with tons of I/O at a midline price, perhaps the M312 is the deal.

I'd take any of the above. I personally own several M30's, an M35, an M312 & M520. I'd never recommend someone buy something I'd not buy myself.

PS: there's the M50 and similar M512, which are more portable version 8 buss mixers on par with the M520, which is a real back breaker!
 
Does a 1508 have the proper outputs and inputs needed to interface with the 38-8? I have the chance to buy one for 125.00
I still dont understand the whole idea about whether it would work or not...I know it has to have at least 8-12 faders and 8 dedicated outputs for the 38-8 as well as 8 ins for the 38-8. But looking at a pic of the mixer I cant tell...
 
Well Im not sure what you are saying. I started this thread to get some ideas from members here what they would use in my situation. I got alot of really good answers. The Fact that Im still asking only means that I still havent found anything I like yet. Sorry if I didnt just run out and buy immediatly the first thing suggested and close the thread. Its kinda hard looking at mixers when they are very deceptive about how many inputs/outputs and all the options. So when I see something somewhere else and I want to know quick if it would work in my case Im sorry if I dont come and ask/post here...that is what it is for.
I guess my current state about it all is that I would like something vintage but I dont fancy waiting 1-2 months for a 208 or 308 to come down the ebaypike. I wouldnt rule out something new tho. But I want basic not something with all of these extra fancy dancy options that I dont need and dont wat to pay for...Sorry

No one is telling you to run out and get the first thing suggested. Indecision I can understand but not following up on anything we write and branching off to other stuff with yet other milions of questions is the issue and is tiresome. You've shown minimal interest in anything we say or suggest [by way of your actions], even though many of us have direct experience with this stuff and are trying to steer you right.. There is no give and take exchange here as you seem to go off on a tangent. It's difficult to repeat something continually and have you completely ignore it. Not answering questions which may help further is another thing.

Also, you really should re-read this thread 'cause it's obvious you may have missed info which would be helpful to you. You're stuck on a couple of mixers and are making erroneous conclusions. We would have not suggested the above mixers [peppered throughout this thread] if they were not good partners with your 38.

You continually keep saying that you don't know and need help. We give our experience and knowledge and you ignore it and go off to something other that strikes your fancy. We are giving you plenty of mixer examples and you don't care.

I mean, really, what is the problem here, Marty?
 
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The only thing Im confused on is what do you look for to tell that it will have enough outputs....which I guess is what you need at least 8 of in order for it to work. Does it need 8 busses or just 8 seperate outs. cause I honestly cant tell. Thats what i want to know.
 
The only thing Im confused on is what do you look for to tell that it will have enough outputs....which I guess is what you need at least 8 of in order for it to work. Does it need 8 busses or just 8 seperate outs. cause I honestly cant tell. Thats what i want to know.


Here ya go... sit back, have a cup 'a joe...

http://www.indiana.edu/~emusic/etext/studio/chapter2_mixers.shtml
http://www.yorkville.com/default.asp?p1=6&p2=17&p_id=23
http://classes.berklee.edu/mbierylo/mtec111_Pages/mixing/mixing.htm
http://www.indiana.edu/~emusic/mxrtrbl.html

:)
 
The only thing Im confused on is what do you look for to tell that it will have enough outputs....which I guess is what you need at least 8 of in order for it to work. Does it need 8 busses or just 8 seperate outs. cause I honestly cant tell. Thats what i want to know.

This read may make some sense...it's help many people to get their head around the whole mixer deal and how to choose the one right for you...read it man! :cool:

http://geocities.com/midimagic@sbcglobal.net/

Cheers! :)
 
Found this description on eBay:...

Tascam M-1508 Mixer Specs

Mixer Master Section:

Aux sends (1,2,3, 1&3 can be summed)
Dual master (linkable with busses 1&2 and 3&4)
Effects return (1 and 2 are stereo and assignable to busses 1&2 and 3&4. 3 and 4 are mono and assignable to busses 1&2 and 3&4 with a pan control)
PFL master send
Monitor selection (mono, 1-2, 3-4, aux 1, aux 2, aux 3, dual, ext in)
Volume faders for busses 1, 2, 3, and 4
6 LED meters (1, 2, 3, 4, mon l, and mon r, mon l doubles as the PFL meter)
Each Mixer Channel

3 inputs, tape (rca), line (1/4"), and mic (xlr)
Insert
Direct out
Trim
3 band EQ with sweepable mids
Overload LED
3 effects sends (send 1 is selectable pre/post, sends 2 and 3 are selectable post/dual)
Dual sub mixer section
Buss selection (direct, 1&2, 3&4)
Pan
PFL
Volume fader
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MY COMMENTS:

Based on how this reads, the M-1508 is an 8-input/4-buss mixer with good aux/io and options, including direct-outs and tape returns. It would support the 38 just fine, based on this picture showing that each buss output has two jacks, like the other Tascam recording mixers. This mixer also has direct-outs, which is a plus.

The thing about busses is relative. You don't need 8-buss outputs for an 8-track recorder. 4-busses will do, based on using each buss to support two tape track inputs. When a 4-buss scheme doesn't suffice for your particular production needs is when you'd employ the direct-outs. However, the distinction between 8-input/4-buss mixers with direct-outs and 8-input/8-buss mixers is a moot point, 'cause you're only talking about 8 channels. When you increase the scope to 12 or 20 channels, the difference between 4-and 8-buss mixers widens a bit.

It's more a matter of whether your mixer has the number of outputs, both buss and direct outs, and tape returns included. All Tascam recording mixers you've considered have that, because they're recording mixers. It's when you venture outside of that that you have to be very careful when looking at features. Some mixers are more geared toward live sound & don't provide an isolated tape return or cue section. Not all mixers are recording mixers, which doesn't mean they absolutely can't be used in recording, it just means they might lack some critical features that recording mixers are supposed to have. You need inputs, outputs and a tape return section, preferrably 8 channels of each, minimum. That doesn't mean you need 8 busses, or necessarily 4, but at least 2 would be good for stereo tracks and mixing. However, the midline you want is at least 4. More busses means less patching. Routing and changes are all done with the flip of a switch & turn of a knob. The better recording mixers provide adequate features, flexibility and function to streamline the recording process, which inversely live sound mixers don't always provide. On the other hand, recording mixers are more than adequately equipped to do live sound, but that's another post. (Blah, blah, blah).:eek::rolleyes:

That dissertation may seem like gibberish to you, but the 1508 for $125 seems like a fairly good deal. I can also see by this pic that the M-1508 requires an external power module, so make sure it is included.:eek::rolleyes:
 

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M-1508

This one's very clean.

See the power module in the pic.:eek::rolleyes:
 

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WOW...
Thanks everyone for those last few posts. That is directly what I am confused about. I have lived my entire recording carrer (hobby) without ever using an actuall mixer. So therefor I dont know jack about them. Im actually supprised myself by how little I know...
But my main problem is looking at a mixer and being able to determine if it has enough ins/outs to work for me. Cause I can go into Guitar Center and just grab something off the shelf that I think is gonna work...try it...if it doesnt work I can return it. No Sweat off my Ballz. But I cant do this on eBay or craigslist. So I have to know ahead of time.
Again I would like to get by cheap. As my main goal is just to record it to the R2R monitor it off the mixer. Send it all into the digi and mix it there. Maybe someone would look at that and say." hey, if youre gonna do that then you dont even need a mixer" That'd be cool...
 
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