Here's my attempt.I know I'm a bit late, but i had a go at mixing this song too. My attempt does not compare with NL5s, but i enjoyed it. Good practice for me. Will post a link as soon as i get the email from lightningmp3
Try starting with the drum tracks and do it without a metronome. Then record all the other instruments to the drums instead of the metronome. Assuming that this will prevent having those sudden jumps in the rhythm, the other players should be better able to follow it.as far as timing goes, i think the biggest problem is that our drummer has a hard time playing with a click and staying in beat like that. we might have to try some other methods before getting this whole timing thing figured out. anyone have any suggestions?
Constant tempo is quite important. But just tell your drummer if he goes slightly off, to gradually get back in time and not to try and sort it straight away. Also, track the rest of the instruments to the drums, not the click. "It is far more important that all instruments stay in sync to each other."(thanks LDL)Try starting with the drum tracks and do it without a metronome. Then record all the other instruments to the drums instead of the metronome. Assuming that this will prevent having those sudden jumps in the rhythm, the other players should be better able to follow it.
The thing is that a constant tempo isn't that important, unless you are doing trance or something like that. It is far more important that all instruments stay in sync to each other.
For example, take a closer look at Cream's "White Room". The timing is amazingly imprecise, but the song works well nevertheless.
Update - not sure if it's better - some things I like better , some things still not right. There are a lot of technical issues with these tracks. Pops, clicks, weird hissing, etc.....
Anyway, and feedback is greatly appreciated......
http://www.lightningmp3.com/live/file.php?fid=9907
None of those backgound noises seem to be a problem, actually. There seems to be something wrong with your recording equipment, as those clicks do sound much like buffer errors. They are most apparent in the vocal tracks, but most of the other tracks suffer from that as well, resulting in random clicks.Pops, clicks, hissing is probably due to us not really recording in a studio but rather a basement where people are walking upstairs, air conditioners and fans turning on, computers running in the background, etc.
I didn't notice mp3 artifacts on them, so I'd say, the quality is fine. Sure, if you're going to be serious, it should be something lossless. But for now, they serve their purpose very well.not to mention those tracks are in mp3 format.
None of those backgound noises seem to be a problem, actually. There seems to be something wrong with your recording equipment, as those clicks do sound much like buffer errors. They are most apparent in the vocal tracks, but most of the other tracks suffer from that as well, resulting in random clicks.
I think that might be the metronome coming through the headphones into the condenser.
I noticed it on the some of the drums, too. Shouldn't be much of an issue regarding the drums, especially since we're just putting together a three song demo disc for a press kit.
Yeah, i thought it was a bit muddy too, but it's the first mix i've done in a long time, and i can only really work with what was given to me. I much prefer NL5 and Logic DeLuxe's attemptsNot bad. A tad muddy and maybe a tad too much cymbals, but still good.
Pity about the performances! Pretty shocking!
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You didn't like our performance? That's too bad
Our drummer never practices with a click, but we're working on that. Should I re-do all these songs we did before I make a demo?
Yeah, i thought it was a bit muddy too, but it's the first mix i've done in a long time, and i can only really work with what was given to me. I much prefer NL5 and Logic DeLuxe's attempts
And, as a drummer, i hate not being able to hear the drums properly. So that's probably the reason for the loud cymbals.