micing drums with 4 microphones

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i'm fairly new at recording drums. i used four microphones:

2 SP B1's for overheads (about a foot above the drummer's head, one aiming the snare and one aiming the bass drum sort of) i might try to do x-y configuration next time

SHURE SM57 (close to the outer-edge of snare aiming at the center of snare about an inch above)

Sennheiser E609 (stuck it inside the kick drum)

listen to the track "Bitter End Drums" and tell me what you think:

http://www.audiostreet.net/artists/006/439/vitalsign.html


i think the cymbals and hi hat are a bit loud and the floor tom and the high and low toms are too low. what would be a good suggestion/placement for the microphones. and also, if i do an x-y configuration where should the overhead mics be aimed at. any help is appreciated.
 
Try lowering the cymbals and moving the hi-hat further away.
 
good idea.. anyone else? what about the x-y configuration where should i point the front of the mics at
 
Have you considered using the Recorderman Modified Spaced Pair method?
 
can anyone show me a good link for the recorderman method. has anyone listened to the mp3? what did you think?
 
ok i read about the recordiongman technique. i was a little confused by tubedude's instructions. here is what he said:



here's my trick. It's fast and it works perfect every time.
1. Place the "Left" overhead mic directly over the center of the snare at the hieght of two drum sticks-held end-to-end(from the center of the snare, straight up, to the capsule of the mic).
2. Next; take the drum sticks (still held end-to-end) from the center of the snare over to above your ( i.e." the drummers") right shoulder and place your "right" overhead mic here.
3. Fine tune the placement by using a mic cable and measurinb the distance from the center of the Kick to each of these mics is also equidistant from the kick and snare.
4. listen with headphones and have the drummer lightly hit his kick drum, and adjust the "right" mics angle until the kick is in the middle of your "image".



first of all when he says measure the distance from center of the kick to each of the mics so they are equidistant from the kick and the snare??? that is pure nonsense. how can the distance from snare to the mics be the same as from the kick to the mics?? what exactly did he mean by this? maybe he meant that the distance from the kick to the left mic will be the same as from the kick to the right mic..

my other question is, some people say that both the left and right mics will be pointed towards the snare, but according to tubedude's instructions the right mic needs to be move around until the kick drum is in the middle of my "image," so that means that the right mic possibly wont be pointing towards the snare, correct?

thanks for the help
 
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