Metalish Demo...

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I gave the song a quick run though... first thing I noticed, as jacen said, the cymbals are a bit bright... as is snare. In my opinion, the reverb on the snare is a bit excessive. Nu metal (or even hard rock) snares seem to be a little more "in your face." (although I don't know if thats what the band is going for)... I'm acutally diggin the guitar sound though.
 
I dig the remix, MMI's comment about the snare is what I battle personally on my mixes, I prefer to have the entire kit "referenced" so not just the snare is in a hall, but the whole kit, so it sounds natural. I noticed the overall compression in the beginning of the song when guitars drop and the snare is louder between chunks, save that for when the radio engineers get a hold of it. Sounds awesome to me. Jason
 
Alrighty...

A totally new mix... retracked rhythm guitar with a whole lot more gain... much bigger gauge strings and a new pickup... much more in your face...

Take a listen and let me know...

Heavy D Mix # 11
 
hm i like the guitars of version 6 best and the vocals of 7. i thought the drumkit of 11 was very good :)

overall good quality imho!
 
SHX said:
hm i like the guitars of version 6 best and the vocals of 7. i thought the drumkit of 11 was very good :)

overall good quality imho!
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that's interesting... thanks.
 
3 things i liked about it.

1.when the guitar pauses, and the snare pops out in every bar, it really pops out. thats sounded cool.

2.the guitars and bass were massive, im diggin that.

3 i liked the nifty flutter delay on the end of the vox here and there.

1 thing i didnt.

the vox were too loud in my opinion.

otherwise, nice work man.

also, who offers a sound replacer program for pt?
i wanna try it.

thanx.
 
xfinsterx said:
... 1 thing i didnt.

the vox were too loud in my opinion.
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I really appreciate the feedback... feedback seems pretty sparse...

the band wants somewhat of a GODSMACKish Guitar sound... initially we had tracked two guitars, but I never thought it was powerful enough. we tracked again and we're more pleased with the results. We changed several things - on the guitar, drop D tuned down to B, Slinky "Not Even Slinky" strings and we changed pickups; on the amp we increased preamp gain, and turned the blasted amp up. This got us much closer and double tracking didn't add a lot.

on your system the vocals were? Way too loud or Somewhat too loud? as the project progresses the vocal rhythm relationship will probably change when put into perspective with the rest of the songs... but thanks for the input...
 
well aas far as the vox are concerned, my tastes are a bit uncommon.
i like the vox to be treated as more of an instrument in the mix, like more more of a 50-50 blend thing.
The lyrically concerned public is not keen on this concept, but i think it sounds a bit butterier.

i listend again and the only thing about the guitars was that they lacked pick attack definition just a wee bit.

frankly when i cant get the sound i want from thier amp with the gear i have I
A.go di through a plug called amplitube.
B.try a differnet guitar or head or mic.
C.try a combo af a and b
D.just accept that no matter how much you polish a turd, its still gonna be a certain shade of brown.

Not to say that your guitar sound lacks much of anything, these are just my processes of elimination.

id like to hear the finished product man.

take care.
 
yeah, when I listen to commercial CDs the VOX usually seems too buried for my taste. the last several days I've been listening to Velvet Revolver and those vocals are really mixed deep. i guess this shows up in my mix.

Ciao...
 
oh by the way, ive gotten REALLY close to that godsmack guitar sound b4.

it was a mesa triple rectifier, i miked i with a sennheiser 421 and a royer 421, scooped the 500hz a little and boosted the 1-2k region a little.

record two takes then put each guitar in stereo (far l and r)
then duplicate those tracks (not reperform but "duplicate")
now take those dupes and bump them each 10 ms. forward.
now take and compress them at a 10:1 or stronger, and attenuate around -3db or so.
now take and blen those in behind the main takes.

i should tighten up and add some punch to your sound.

also, less gain is more clarity, but most rock players will whine if you get near theyre gain knob so......

peace.
 
hey xfinsterx... how about posting a clip and thanks for the insight on how you mic.
 
hey no sweat sonixx, ill post it after a while im leave the two songs up for a little bit and ill post it next week.

peace.
 
My problem with it is this: the guitars are just too distorted and loud in the mix. This recording is way too guitar-o-centric... all the other elements, including the vocals take a far back seat to it and this upsets the balance.

The drums are hard to hear as a full kit and don't breathe. The bass is there, but only as part of the guitar. The vocals are totally buried.

Lately a lot of recordings, even pro ones, are way too obsessed on pushing the guitar way too loud in the mix. Maybe you're going for that type of sound; however, I don't like that sound at all.

Maybe I'm completely offbase here but I'm not digging it.
 
I pretty much agree w/ Cloneboy...
The guitar tones were too "ugly"(?) and overly distorted for my taste.
I lean towards 80'd metal tones though, so what do I know?? :rolleyes:

The guitar was abit monotonous, and didn't "breathe". Unfortunately, I have no suggestions on how to improve it....

I think that's the sound you wanted so keep it.

I wish we could get recordings this good in 1986 w/o spending wads of cash!!!

-Good job!!!
 
Cloneboy Studio
thanks for taking time to listen and reply. it's appreciated.

The bass is there, but only as part of the guitar
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I'll take this as a complement. that's exactly what I am going for.


The vocals are totally buried.
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are you talking about Heavy D? they sure arn't buried on any system I've listened to.


The drums are hard to hear as a full kit and don't breathe
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I'll take another listen

This recording is way too guitar-o-centric...
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Yep...


turnitdown
thanks too...

The guitar tones were too "ugly"
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the guitar tone is raw, but it's exactly what the guitarist wants. I'm not sure about the guitar tone being ugly though...


I wish we could get recordings this good in 1986 w/o spending wads of cash!!!
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I am confused about your comment... you don't like it, but the quality is Okay... not sure.
 
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sounds too much like godsmack, but they don't quite pull it off.

what kind of following does this band have? (as in, where do they play? how many people attend their shows?)
 
kiwigirl, they're a local Band. I don't much about their following... sorry.

thanks...
 
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