Mastering Software, Hardware...

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T Racks, Some good monitors, Mixing skills, and patience...

I tend to now put much effort in most of my tracks becuase There for nothing more then internet amusement unless i decide to put together an album or something..

now the above formular wont work as good as a million dollar studio studio but if you keep at it, it will land u close..

my example, well I just finished A track that my friend sang.. I think its a really nice track, very mellow, hes not the perfect singer but he did well on this.. My hat is off to him..

It is called slipping away..

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/2/thirst1music.htm

now it has a lengthy intro lol so be patient.. Now the beat was given to me along with vocals as seperate mp3 files.. NOT .WAV's.. SO there were restrictions.. I had to bring the thump back to the beat as well as draw the muddiness out of the beat and add hi's back to it to give it the clearer cleaner sound.. For the circumstances the track was done under, the results really do make me happy.. I dont know about yall.. Maybe you can hear something I cant but take a listen..

Also keep in mind thats the 128kbps mp3 version.. And he recorded on his mic.. IF he would have recorded with my mic, the vocals would be a little crisper and nicer.. hope you enjoy.. I did..
 
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Thirst said:
T Racks, Some good monitors, Mixing skills, and patience...
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You've got to be kidding......... :rolleyes:


Thirst said:
now the above formular wont work as good as a million dollar studio studio but if you keep at it, it will land u close..
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no, you won't......
 
^ dude are you fucken serious.. you love me.. LISTEN TO THE TRACK AND SHUT THE FUCK UP.. plain n simple its right there... listen to it u fucken homo.. jesus you follow me every where replying to my shit, the little kid in me wish's you lived near me so I could pummel ya dumb ass.. But then the adult in me says make another song n prove fuckers like you wrong..

If yall dont think im right.. Listen to the track.. bluebears hes got nothing useful to say in any forum he enters..

like i said.. Listen to the track..
 
I listened -- it sounds pretty crappy.... very tinny and hyped. really no surprise, coming from you....

And who's following who asshole? Don't you see my posts here BEFORE yours, you dumb fuck?

Now go back to pretend-mastering on your Soundblaster card and let the adults have a serious discussion here, little boy..... :rolleyes:
 
Blue Bear Sound said:
I listened -- it sounds pretty crappy.... very tinny and hyped. really no surprise, coming from you....

And who's following who asshole? Don't you see my posts here BEFORE yours, you dumb fuck?

Now go back to pretend-mastering on your Soundblaster card and let the adults have a serious discussion here, little boy..... :rolleyes:
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I listened. Not all that bad. really. I think more went wrong in the tracking and mixing than the mastering, which showed up in the mastering. Tough to tell because of the constant "clicking" and "popping" in the background. The vocals were good but had too much siblance. Some of the tracks were distorted and the bottom end is muddy, but that is about it. It is slightly thin sounding. Needs more "punch". That is all I can think of right now.
 
yea like i said I couldnt adjust the beat istelf, it was an mp3 file. So I had to try and do what I could with it.. only things I had full controle over was the vocals themselves...

Popping/Clicking.. you got some good ears cuz I cant hear shit..

one of the many things I must learn then... Thank you.. Its appreciated..
 
I hear the clicking and popping now lol.. hmm I didnt hear that yesterday... ( slaps myself )...
 
Massive Master, what mods did you make to your PRO VLA? Just curious, and wondering if they are intense modify the circuit board kind of stuff, or relatively simple changes.
 
I know I'm a little late on this discussion, but this thread came up in a search. I’ll repost this message in mixing/mastering forums.
I use both Waves and Ozone for mastering. If you’re just getting started, I'd recommend Ozone. It gives you a plethora of good presets that will point you in the right direction. This can also give you good ideas for future projects. Waves mastering tools are a little more complicated...but in my opinion more precise.

If I don't know what I'm talking about then straighten me out…

Many people would like to learn about mastering..how it works, what's involved, and what it takes to get the "sound" everyone has labeled "pro." Luckily I live near a mastering facility here in Daytona Beach, and got my start learning from some pro's. The fun part is comparing what you can do on your own, with a small budget and plug-ins, to what the facility can give you. From there you can pick out where your master is weak... Hopefully you have made friends with the engineer's so you can ask "what made you do that/this?" or "how did you get it to sound more….."

It’s not so much the software/hardware that gets you the sound…though it helps…..like mentioned before; it’s 90% the person behind the tools.

It's pretty sad that it seems the world of "professional mastering" is so closed off to the general public. It's like a little cult or something. Any time someone wants to move forward on their own, as in learning the processes to master their own music, it’s immediately shot down as "amateur.” I’ve even seen posts that go as far as SCOLD the person trying to learn…
For example…

Originally posted by spectacle
The reason why I wan to master is cuz I want total control of my music.

Response posted by Blue Bear Sound
Then you will fail. Period. Your ears are not objective to your own project

This is just sad….and also complete bs…
I’m a musician that is mastering his own material…though I have guidance, I wouldn’t be so quick to jump to generalizations.

We all agree that you can get a great sound from a mastering house….that being said….lets stop taking credit away from the people who are trying to learn the art themselves, and instead of immediately shooing them away with a disturbing macho-istic attitude, welcome them into this underground gang we call “professional master engineers” and help them get to where they want to be.

Peece,
 
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If I don't know what I'm talking about then straighten me out…
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I'm about to........


vic91218 said:

Originally posted by spectacle
The reason why I wan to master is cuz I want total control of my music.

Response posted by Blue Bear Sound
Then you will fail. Period. Your ears are not objective to your own project

This is just sad….and also complete bs…
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It IS NOT bs - and it shows how much more you need to learn about the process...........

You could be Bob-fucking-Katz and you still wouldn't be able to master your own project.......... WHY? Because aside from the technical aspects of needing an accurate monitoring chain that actually lets you hear what's really going on (which most "amateurs" don't have) - you ABSOLUTELY, POSITIVELY, WITHOUT A DOUBT need impartial ears to objectively judge the overall sound quality. After tracking and mixing for weeks, you simply get used to the sound you've created whether good or bad, and you can no longer be objective about it.
 
vic91218 said:
It's pretty sad that it seems the world of "professional mastering" is so closed off to the general public. It's like a little cult or something. Any time someone wants to move forward on their own, as in learning the processes to master their own music, it’s immediately shot down as "amateur.” I’ve even seen posts that go as far as SCOLD the person trying to learn…
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I don't think it is so closed off. Look at Bob Katz's book, is it possible to give away any more knowledge and information on mastering than in that book? Brad Blackwood is always extremely generous in sharing his advice as well. There are others, too. It's not a big secret.

As far as shooting down folks that want to learn how to master on their own, that's kind of a double-sided issue. In most cases that I've seen on message boards, the people wishing to master their own albums are truly clueless. I'm not talking about pro recording/mixing guys that are doing light mastering for their clients, I'm talking about the people that post in wanting use a couple plugins on their own tracks and have difficulty even using the correct audio terminology. So on the one hand, it is actually good advice to dissuade them from mastering their own projects, as their end self-mastered product will probably be rather "amateur". On the other hand, it is of course to anyone's benefit to educate themselves in every facet of recording music, and attempting mastering is a great education.

Massive Master, I'm still interested in knowing those mods you did to your Pro VLA. If you feel like sharing I'd be curious as to what you did. Thanks!
 
[Pre-Edit] Whoops - Sorry, never saw that earlier post [/Pre-Edit]

I wish I could - I didn't do the mods (and I hate to say I'm not much of a "techie" type) myself.

Op amps, tubes, tweaks, caps, etc.

I also understand it to be at least similar to this gentleman here...

http://nanaimo.ark.com/~pat/record.htm

Not that it needed it that much... Those are pretty damn sweet units IMO... I want to pick up another (stock) for the occasional tracking session...

JS

P.S. And for the record (I may have mentioned this before), when I master my own stuff I either send it out or at least bring in another engineer to keep me in the real world. Blue Bear is absolutely correct. once you're intimately familiar with a recording, it's nearly impossible to master it "properly."

When I get a project in I start on the shaping IMMEDIATELY after I can set a level. Once I start "tapping my foot" to it, it's difficult to approach it objectively.
 
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