Mastering - is it worth it?

[sweetnubs]

ok. let's try it again. i'll make it really simple. read my original post on this thread. that means my first post. you will see the words "of course i agree" meaning i agree with blueballs that mastering cannot be done at home. the question i was asking is why does he think mastering should only be left to professionals but engineering can be done by anyone, even a non-professional?


let me type that again away from all the other big confusing words to avoid confusion:


the question i was asking is why does he think mastering should only be left to professionals but engineering can be done by anyone, even a non-profesional?


does this make sense? i agree that mastering cannont be done at home. i agree mastering cannot be done at home . . . . ad infinitum.

 

[Blue Bear Sound]

why does he think mastering should only be left to professionals but engineering can be done by anyone, even a non-professional?

WHERE... do you get this shit???

When have I EVER said I think ANYONE can be an engineer????

 

[Seanmorse79]

...maybe you could apply your critical thinking abilities, and show me where it was that BlueBear said that mastering cannot be done at home.

 

[sweetnubs]

alright, alright. . .maybe "anyone" was a little to broad of a stroke. in the rant on my original much apreciated and be-loved thread "the way it is" i basically put forth the premise that recording should be left to professionals. of course professional engineers have the same advantage that professional mastering engineers have: they've been doing it for 20 years, have equipment and a room that they know intimately, know where to place mics, etc. i think you get the gist. so in my opinion recording at home for a hobby is fine, but if you want a good sounding album you are better off dropping your money on a professional studio than trying to do it yourself. same with mastering. i never master anything and refuse to do it if clients axe me.


got nubaphonic sound?

 

[sweetnubs]

seanmorse, or as i will now call you "deadhorse" because i am now beating a deadhorse since you clearly lack basic research skills. look at blueballs orginal post on this thread. it's post #2, first page, first sentence. look especially inside the parantheses. now look at my original post, which you obviously didn't read, where i quote this sentence and use it as the basis of my big college thesis.

 

[Seanmorse79]

I think you might want to read it again, or re-think your thesis. You've quoted it, but I doubt that you understood it.

Interpreting that statement as "mastering cannot be done at home" is a bit of a stretch, as was the "anyone" statement you just backpedaled on.

 

[littledog]

Ok, Sweety,

I have a question for you, if you can take time away from pulling wings off of flies to answer.

I know you are not a 14 year old kid, so i can't use peurile jejuneness as an excuse for your behavior around here. So what is your motivation?

Unlike some others, I don't doubt your credentials or your expertise. I could perhaps understand someone who wouldn't care to share their hard-won professional knowledge with the great non-dues paying unwashed, even though, fortunately, many others even more expert than yourself do not feel that way. But you are more than willing to share - and you manage to consistently find a way of doing so in a style that is obnoxious, insulting, and inconsiderate. Even when you make excellent points, you are careful to couch them in ad hominem attacks and egotistical ravings.

To what end? Are you so socially inept that the only way you can interact is to put others down? Is your life so void of real accomplishment and relationships that this is actually fulfilling and pleasureable to you?

You claim that your professional personality is so charming and humorous that your clients seek you out for those aspects alone. So why the Mr. Hyde act in here? Do you need a release from a reservoir of twisted poison inside of you so that you can maintain that charming front to your clients?

I know there are a lot of people who create many internet personas, kind of as a hobby, source of amusement, and psychological experiment. Is this what you are doing?

Whatever it is, do you think that if your real goal was to convince people of your primary argument - to use professional engineers and not attempt home recording - that this particular tack you have taken is effective?

Many of us, including Blue Bear, have made compelling arguments for using a professional mastering engineer. Most of the time, this was done without name calling, insulting anyone's ancestry, or acting like we were God's gift to the world. And in some cases, those reasoned arguments may have even convinced others.

Do you really think that the way in which you present your ideas would convince anyone to change their ideas or behavior? You're obviously too smart to believe that, so that likely leaves the conclusion that you are a bored, bitter, antisocial personality who really needs to get a life. And all the professional accomplishments in the world, in your case, apparently do not a fulfilling life make. Especially in the ethical/spiritual sense.

 

[littledog]

Interpreting that statement as "mastering cannot be done at home" is a bit of a stretch, as was the "anyone" statement you just backpedaled on.

I think mastering probably could be done at home, assuming you are living in Bob Ludwig's house...

 

[greggybud]

I think mastering probably could be done at home, assuming you are living in Bob Ludwig's house...

Sure dude, go ahead and pick Bob........I'm going to Emily Lazars pad in New York!

 

[ecs113]

Sure dude, go ahead and pick Bob........I'm going to Emily Lazars pad in New York!

I see what you mean....

 

[sweetnubs]

littlenubs, my problem is i no longer have the girlish figure i once had. my man titties are hurting my back. the heals i'm wearing are way too tight and i am a recovering skittles addict.

 

[David]

littlenubs, my problem is i no longer have the girlish figure i once had. my man titties are hurting my back. the heals i'm wearing are way too tight and i am a recovering skittles addict.

hahahaha...he said his "man titties" are hurting his/her back. hehehehehe! ...YUCK

 

[littledog]

littlenubs, my problem is i no longer have the girlish figure i once had. my man titties are hurting my back. the heals i'm wearing are way too tight and i am a recovering skittles addict.

we've all got problems. still doesn't answer any of my questions, not that I thought you would. it still boils down to: are you only capable of getting pleasure at other people's expense, or is that modus operandi something you do only in this forum?

i apologize for my efforts if any attempt at real communication is something beyond your ability.

 

[sweetnubs]

aahhh you see sweetnubs is too sharp for your tactics. sweetnubs, unlike most people, knows what happens when you open up to someone. sweetnubs knows this is a tactic used by people to gain power and control over you. look at confession in catholicism, psychologists, school counselors, new age charltans. oprah, dr. phil, astrologists, etc. etc. etc. people don't realize by revealing personal intimate information you are giving control to someone else. these people are not to be trusted. only very close friends and loved ones should be trusted with that type of information. people use that information for control, plain and simple. tell me about yourself, don't forget to put money in the offering plate. sweetnubs wasn't born yesterday my friend.

 

[chessrock]

aahhh you see sweetnubs is too sharp for your tactics.

Superiority complex.

sweetnubs, unlike most people, knows what happens when you open up to someone.

Thinks he's not like other people; is afraid of opening up to others.

sweetnubs knows this is a tactic used by people to gain power and control over you.

Paranoia

people don't realize by revealing personal intimate information you are giving control to someone else. these people are not to be trusted.

More paranoia; fear of opening up; mistrust of others. Rephrasing the same words. A common cry for help.

only very close friends and loved ones should be trusted with that type of information.

Naive assumptions. Believes friends and family are harmless but the rest of the world is bad. Probably is very much controlled by his family, but doesn't consciously realize it.

Believes control is something stripped away through underhanded tactics, coersion, etc., rather than something concsiously surrendered through one's own will.

Probably has been in a traumatic situation, or several, where he felt powerless. Most likely it was with a non-family member (hence his mistrust). I deduce it happened most severely when he was 20 yrs old, hence his constant use of the phrase "20 years." Notice his use of it in the following quote:

Quote: of course professional engineers have the same advantage that professional mastering engineers have: they've been doing it for 20 years, have equipment and a room that they know intimately, know where to place mics, etc.


Brain is stuck on the 20-yr career mark. Definitely a subconscious cry for help.

Well, looks like I already know everything about you sweetnubs. I am your master, now, and you are my puppet. From now on, you will go by the name "Chessnubs," untill further notice. Carry on.

 

[chessrock]

I am going to count back, and when I get to the number 20, I want you to bark like a dog, chessnubs!

10 . . .9 . . . 8 . . . 45 . . . 82 . . .

 

[sweetnubs]

chessnubs where is the love for bigdaddynubs? i thought you weren't part of the "mullet triumvirate". (blueballs, track ratard and alzheimers) you and littlenubs both got sweetandsophisticatednubs all wrong. i am a turkey cookin', jiggly jello-lovin', acid-eatin', bush hatin', fellini lovin', flamin' man-tittied, pink squirell drinkin', high heel wearin', family affair watchin', men without hats listenin' , rootin' tootin' audio engineer . . .

 

[littledog]

aahhh you see sweetnubs is too sharp for your tactics. sweetnubs, unlike most people, knows what happens when you open up to someone. sweetnubs knows this is a tactic used by people to gain power and control over you. look at confession in catholicism, psychologists, school counselors, new age charltans. oprah, dr. phil, astrologists, etc. etc. etc. people don't realize by revealing personal intimate information you are giving control to someone else. these people are not to be trusted. only very close friends and loved ones should be trusted with that type of information. people use that information for control, plain and simple. tell me about yourself, don't forget to put money in the offering plate. sweetnubs wasn't born yesterday my friend.

the false implication of your thesis is that i care enough about you to want to control you, which i can reassure you is not the case. my interest in you resides purely in the freakishness of your intellectual motivation - compelling in the same way as a car crash I suppose.

nonetheless, you actually made a thoughtful and informative reply on another thread (what to buy for $5000) which demonstrated that you are capable of communicating without overwhelming us with your hubris. maybe you were just in temporary ego remission, but it was nice to see.

 

[fprod south]

The turkey recipe was good too. I used it, and the turkey turned out better than any my mother had ever cooked.

 

[ecs113]

The turkey recipe was good too. I used it, and the turkey turned out better than any my mother had ever cooked.

I second that.