esactun
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So you can cook a turkey at home? Does this mean that the mashed potatoes should be left to the mastering engineer?
sweetnubs
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todays nubism:
The importance of nonsense hardly can be overstated. The more clearly we experience something as "nonsense", the more clearly we are experiencing the boundaries of our own self-imposed cognitive structures. Nonsense is that which does not fit into the prearranged patterns which we have super-imposed on reality. there is no such thing as "nonsense" apart from judgmental intellect which calls it that.
am i full of hullabaloo or malarky?
The importance of nonsense hardly can be overstated. The more clearly we experience something as "nonsense", the more clearly we are experiencing the boundaries of our own self-imposed cognitive structures. Nonsense is that which does not fit into the prearranged patterns which we have super-imposed on reality. there is no such thing as "nonsense" apart from judgmental intellect which calls it that.
am i full of hullabaloo or malarky?
Blue Bear Sound
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Both............sweetnubs said:
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zekthedeadcow
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Back to the origional topic (heaven forbid)
I will "master" everything I do unless the band want to send it to a mastering house. Which in the case of indie bands in my area is not very often.
However I have some basic guidlines.
1. - a reference CD that they sort of want it to sound like. So I can match tone (in mix) and loudness. My stuff won't be nearly "as good" but it's nowhere near as expensive and most bands will realize the tradeoff (while I work to minimize it)
2. a few days off from the music - the longer the better. So I come back with a fresh mind.
3. The client must realize that the production is "low budget" ...however I get most of my clients because I'm better than the local studios ...or at least more fun to work with
I mean studios in my area pull crap like recycle (heavily used) tape and I had one client who was referd to a studio by a weathy friend...the studio took control of the project and obliterated it... went from good Christian Folk to really bad CCM...when the friend heard the CD he refunded the $3000 (one week) to her himself.
heh...infact I went digital when I started because every local band that was recorded on tape had crappy production quality.
In my old band our fans actually liked the production of our very first demo (vegas audio and SM57's into a 8 track mixer into a soundblaster card) in a noisey basement than at Rome Recording in Columbus, OH (second demo)
You just have to know what you want and be careful and patient.
I will "master" everything I do unless the band want to send it to a mastering house. Which in the case of indie bands in my area is not very often.
However I have some basic guidlines.
1. - a reference CD that they sort of want it to sound like. So I can match tone (in mix) and loudness. My stuff won't be nearly "as good" but it's nowhere near as expensive and most bands will realize the tradeoff (while I work to minimize it)
2. a few days off from the music - the longer the better. So I come back with a fresh mind.
3. The client must realize that the production is "low budget" ...however I get most of my clients because I'm better than the local studios ...or at least more fun to work with
I mean studios in my area pull crap like recycle (heavily used) tape and I had one client who was referd to a studio by a weathy friend...the studio took control of the project and obliterated it... went from good Christian Folk to really bad CCM...when the friend heard the CD he refunded the $3000 (one week) to her himself.heh...infact I went digital when I started because every local band that was recorded on tape had crappy production quality.
In my old band our fans actually liked the production of our very first demo (vegas audio and SM57's into a 8 track mixer into a soundblaster card) in a noisey basement than at Rome Recording in Columbus, OH (second demo)
You just have to know what you want and be careful and patient.
S
StevaReno
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fprod said it best !
i think we ALL are trying to get to that level of experience
of being able to "MASTER"---if your not there already!
this is what we do
this is why we're here discussing so we can get that "bit"
of info that's gonna take our skills further
"Mastering" is just that
there are combinations of
freq's,volumes,pan's,effects,arrangements---did i miss anything?
all that is mastering!
however, i do believe you can get "excellent mixes" at home
but the mastering equiptment has more amps than yours
there mixing console's are stronger than yours
and yes there ear are fresher "than yours"
Steve
i think we ALL are trying to get to that level of experience
of being able to "MASTER"---if your not there already!
this is what we do
this is why we're here discussing so we can get that "bit"
of info that's gonna take our skills further
"Mastering" is just that
there are combinations of
freq's,volumes,pan's,effects,arrangements---did i miss anything?
all that is mastering!
however, i do believe you can get "excellent mixes" at home
but the mastering equiptment has more amps than yours
there mixing console's are stronger than yours
and yes there ear are fresher "than yours"
Steve
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pjenne
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mastering
Man, I'm lucky to have a tolerant wife. Football widows don't know how good they have it. : )
That point's been going around for good a reason. Sometimes the obvious can be elusive if no one else is around to say, "how come it sounds like x? Bring in some buddies whose ears you know. You've been talking about music for ever with somebody out there, right?
This thread's been fun reading because I have a fellow fellow hobbiest working on my mastering right now, and you're all making me very nervous, with two mitigating factors: 1) I mixed it to stereo before I sent it off, so there isn't that much he can do, right? Right? B. I know the guys got some ears, and better equipment than I have anyway, even if he's not a pro.
I'm giving a CD out as a birthday party favor this weekend, and it's all coming together right now. Incidentally, I'd be happy to listen to some mixes/masters and tell you if any thing stands out. Power to the home rec crew, I say.
Seanmorse79 said:Well put. I'm in the same boat (hobbiest), although it seems to be more of an obsession than a hobby
Man, I'm lucky to have a tolerant wife. Football widows don't know how good they have it. : )
That point's been going around for good a reason. Sometimes the obvious can be elusive if no one else is around to say, "how come it sounds like x? Bring in some buddies whose ears you know. You've been talking about music for ever with somebody out there, right?
This thread's been fun reading because I have a fellow fellow hobbiest working on my mastering right now, and you're all making me very nervous, with two mitigating factors: 1) I mixed it to stereo before I sent it off, so there isn't that much he can do, right? Right? B. I know the guys got some ears, and better equipment than I have anyway, even if he's not a pro.
I'm giving a CD out as a birthday party favor this weekend, and it's all coming together right now. Incidentally, I'd be happy to listen to some mixes/masters and tell you if any thing stands out. Power to the home rec crew, I say.
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ambi
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That last comment by sweetnubs is true, but maybe not entirly when applied to this specific situation. But it is generally true. Everyones definition of strange is different. I think sweetnubs thinks a lot and is driving himself insane by over analyzing the world and all aspects of it. This is a form of theropy, like a test or something like that. Does it help at all? Or do you still feel unsatisfied, with that heavy feeling of dread in your stomache? You ever dart your eyes around really fast and look insane?
