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saads said:
It makes me wondering why you actings like the douchebag.
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I will tell you why...
I started as a recording engineer in 1989 and then I changed to mastering in 1997. If the OP dont know how, where and when to use a plug in its obvious that he/she doesn't have a clue about mastering. Mastering do not came in a box that you can open and make it happen. That take years of experience and knowledge and mastering its not just about plug ins (that is why we are called PROFESSIONALS).

If the OP wants to learn how to mastering music he need to start getting the right information instead of listen to people here that don't have any clue about mastering. So far John from Massive Mastering is the only one with the right answer to the OP.

If you have the idea that mastering is just make the song LOUD...you are WRONG.

So if you dont know something, let the professionals do the job.

This is one of the reason I didnt post anything in almost 3 years. Its always somebody without common sense calling other douchebag.
 
Greg_L said:
That's a load of bull. I guess we should hire professional engineers to track for us too. And mixing professionals to mix for us too. Hell, let's all hire professional session players. No thanks. Part of the point and appeal of "home recording" is not having to hire a bunch of yahoos to do things for you. With the some practice and what are very likely to be stolen plug-ins, the OP can get very good mastering results that will rival or surpass many of the "pro" mastering guys out there.
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If you know how to do it, do it. Its not a reason why you cant do the job is you have the knowledge, but if you don't know how and you decided to do all the tracking, record all the instruments, mixing and do the mastering, then you have to realize if you can or can not sell your product or demo to the right people. Because you will be competing with others (with the knowledge) that took the time and chose the right people to do the right job.

Its nothing wrong if you want to record everything in a home recording studio. A lot of my clients have a recording studio at home, but they have a lot of experience in the industry and those that don't have the experience they get the right engineer to do the mixing and the right engineer to do the mastering.

Also its a lot of recording engineers that called themselves GOOD but at the end of the journey they are not. That happened with the mastering engineers as well, but that if not always the case.

There are a lots of good recording and mastering engineers that you can trust your songs without expending a fortune.
 
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Greg_L said:
Or you can just do it yourself and not pay anyone for anything.
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Greg like I said...if you have the knowledge, just do it. Its your project...you can make it good or worst and you can only blame on one
person...you.
 
lberrios1962 said:
Greg like I said...if you have the knowledge, just do it. Its your project...you can make it good or worst and you can only blame on one
person...you.
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It's better to suck for no money than to pay someone and still suck. Recording is cheaper and easier than ever - for better or worse. One look around myspace, facebook, or youtube can confirm that. Evey dummy with some cracked software and a guitar can make music and get it all over the internet. I'm no expert, but from what I can tell the majority of online "mastering engineers" don't do anything the average joe with some plug-ins can't do himself....especially if we're talking about getting only one song done to be released as a single. Any monkey can do that. True mastering is working a collection of songs to sonically work together and flow as an album. That is significantly harder to do well, but it can still be done at home by anyone with half a brain and functioning ears.
 
Greg_L said:
It's better to suck for no money than to pay someone and still suck. Recording is cheaper and easier than ever - for better or worse. One look around myspace, facebook, or youtube can confirm that. Evey dummy with some cracked software and a guitar can make music and get it all over the internet. I'm no expert, but from what I can tell the majority of online "mastering engineers" don't do anything the average joe with some plug-ins can't do himself....especially if we're talking about getting only one song done to be released as a single. Any monkey can do that. True mastering is working a collection of songs to sonically work together and flow as an album. That is significantly harder to do well, but it can still be done at home by anyone with half a brain and functioning ears.
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WOW....That is why after 30 years in the business clients still looking for me to do their projects. The majority online mastering engineers have WAY too many years of experience, at least those that I know. Because they are working online doesn't mean that is not a professional job. The ability to receive and send the files via FTP (online) is a very helpful way for those clients that dont have the way to visit the studio for whatever reason, maybe the distance. I have clients in all USA and latin america and they cant be in the studio every time I'm doing a mastering for them

Some people are abusing of that making themselves available for those in need, hurting the industry with poor jobs and false representation.

When a monkey recorded, mixed and mastered a song, that is the way it sound, like monkeys and that is why no record label will invest in them and they have to sell those monkey produced songs in ugly monkey websites that they have built themselves (because they don't have MONEY to pay for a web designer).

That is the difference between monkey engineers and professional like us.

BTW...I heard your songs in your website...LOL, LOL, LOL...they are good because they are for a good cause, March of Dimes (very good for you on that), I also support that cause.

I'm out...I have a meeting with a client that pay for a professional job...the professional job I do, as well as others professional mastering engineers.

You have a good day...
 
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lberrios1962 said:
WOW....That is why after 30 years in the business clients still looking for me to do their projects. The majority online mastering engineers have WAY too many years of experience, at least those that I know.

When a monkey recorded, mixed and mastered a song, that is the way it sound, like monkeys and that is why no record label will invest in them and they have to sell those monkey produced songs in ugly monkey websites that they have built themselves (because they don't have MONEY to pay for a web designer).

That is the difference between monkey engineers and professional like us.

BTW...I heard your songs in your website...LOL, LOL, LOL...they are good because they are for a good cause (good for you on that).

I'm out...I have a meeting with a client that pay for a professional job...the job I do as well as others professional mastering engineers.

You have a good day...
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Please post a sample of your work.
 
RAMI said:
Please post a sample of your work.
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Why do you need an example of my job? If you want my services I will do a free master (90 seconds) of one of your songs for you. Then you decide from there.
If you want to be present in the studio I can put you in the schedule. Then you can see me working, hear your song and decide.

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I don't charge extra if the client want to be in the studio during the session.
 
RAMI said:
Please post a sample of your work.
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Why do you need an example of my job? If you want my services I will do a free master (90 seconds) of one of your songs for you. Then you decide from there.
If you want to be present in the studio I can put you in the schedule. Then you can see me working, hear your song and decide.

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I don't charge extra if the client want to be in the studio during the session.
 
I don't need you to work on qnything. But you're getting alittle preachy and arrogant. Surely, you must have something you've done in your 30 years of experience that you can post.
 
lberrios1962 said:
WOW....That is why after 30 years in the business clients still looking for me to do their projects. The majority online mastering engineers have WAY too many years of experience, at least those that I know. Because they are working online doesn't mean that is not a professional job. The ability to receive and send the files via FTP (online) is a very helpful way for those clients that dont have the way to visit the studio for whatever reason, maybe the distance. I have clients in all USA and latin america and they cant be in the studio every time I'm doing a mastering for them

Some people are abusing of that making themselves available for those in need, hurting the industry with poor jobs and false representation.

When a monkey recorded, mixed and mastered a song, that is the way it sound, like monkeys and that is why no record label will invest in them and they have to sell those monkey produced songs in ugly monkey websites that they have built themselves (because they don't have MONEY to pay for a web designer).

That is the difference between monkey engineers and professional like us.

BTW...I heard your songs in your website...LOL, LOL, LOL...they are good because they are for a good cause, March of Dimes (very good for you on that), I also support that cause.

I'm out...I have a meeting with a client that pay for a professional job...the professional job I do, as well as others professional mastering engineers.

You have a good day...
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lol @ butthurt internet "professionals". Shame on me for not worshiping the word of some anonymous screen name that claims to be pro on the internet. I understand your hate and anger towards DIY'ers, since you're a "professional" and all that, but put aside your jealousy for a moment and be objective. What's wrong with people doing everything themselves? If they blow it, it's their own fault. But when they succeed, you get angry. When you blow it, you blame it on something else. Don't sweat it though, I'm sure there are plenty of fools you'll dupe into paying you to "master" their stuff. Good luck!
 
lberrios1962 said:
Some people are abusing of that making themselves available for those in need, hurting the industry with poor jobs and false representation.

When a monkey recorded, mixed and mastered a song, that is the way it sound, like monkeys and that is why no record label will invest in them and they have to sell those monkey produced songs in ugly monkey websites that they have built themselves (because they don't have MONEY to pay for a web designer).

That is the difference between monkey engineers and professional like us.

BTW...I heard your songs in your website...LOL, LOL, LOL...they are good because they are for a good cause, March of Dimes (very good for you on that), I also support that cause.

I'm out...I have a meeting with a client that pay for a professional job...the professional job I do, as well as others professional mastering engineers.

You have a good day...
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:facepalm:
 
Greg_L said:
lol @ butthurt internet "professionals". Shame on me for not worshiping the word of some anonymous screen name that claims to be pro on the internet. I understand your hate and anger towards DIY'ers, since you're a "professional" and all that, but put aside your jealousy for a moment and be objective. What's wrong with people doing everything themselves? If they blow it, it's their own fault. But when they succeed, you get angry. When you blow it, you blame it on something else. Don't sweat it though, I'm sure there are plenty of fools you'll dupe into paying you to "master" their stuff. Good luck!
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I was clear when I told you that its your song and you can do it if you know how. Why I have to be jealous, of you? LOL...really?

You was the one who said "any monkey can do that"..so you are calling yourself monkey.

some anonymous name...well you can see it the way you want it. I'm objective that is why I listened to your songs in your website and they sound like monkeys. Now I know that you was referring to yourself when you made that statement.

I offer my clients FREE revisions. They don't have to pay me until they are happy with my job. If they are not 100% happy and decided to take their product to somewhere else, they don't have to pay a dime for my time. That is how sure I'm of what I'm doing. I don't need to steel money from anybody

I don't need to fool anybody, my job speak by itself. There are clients out there that don't want a monkey mastering their projects.

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Good luck to you because you need to sell a lots of CD's for the March of Dimes. So far that is the only good thing that you had done. As far as recording...I'm not too sure.
 
PDP said:
Common sense ?
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PDP...I offer free example to those clients that are interested in my services, free examples of their own job. I can send all my discography to a client but it doesn't make a sense because each song have their own characteristics and you cant master every song using the same approach. I prefer to make a free master of a client's song and let them decide based on their own music.
 
RAMI said:
I don't need you to work on qnything. But you're getting alittle preachy and arrogant. Surely, you must have something you've done in your 30 years of experience that you can post.
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You are not my client so I dont need to show you anything and if I'm arrogant its not your business.

Yes I have done a lot in 30 years, but because you dont need my services, you dont need to hear it.

Good Night and God bless you...
 
This thread seems to be going well..... :D

Easy there now...let's all take a couple of steps back before it gets too personal.
 
lberrios1962 said:
You are not my client so I dont need to show you anything and if I'm arrogant its not your business.

Yes I have done a lot in 30 years, but because you dont need my services, you dont need to hear it.

Good Night and God bless you...
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LOL! :laughings:
 
lberrios1962 said:
I listened to your songs in your website and they sound like monkeys.
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You don't have to show anyone your work....UNLESS you make statements like that. If you're going to insult someone's work, then you should put up some of your work. Otherwise, you come off as a blow-hard and a coward. But you already confirmed at least one of those earlier in the thread.

God bless you- :rolleyes:
 
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