Marshall MXL Quality????

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Han said:
DJL, as you may know I have a DDA-AMR board and there's nothing wrong with it's pre's.

I have been working with a couple of outboard pre's, but none of them was any better, slightly different but not better.

The DDA-AMR 44/24 was a $100k+ board in the early nineties (with the Optifile Tetra automation).

I wish there had been mics like the MXL V69 and V77 back in the 80's/90's
Again... Perhaps you should address Stoctony with your post and tell him what preamps you recommand in other to make the V77 work. IMO, Marshall Electronics makes cheap Chinese budget mics.
 
DJL--the V77 is a toob mic and doesn't need a preamp.

the V67 does need a preamp, and is what most folks have been "dissing" lately, and sells for about 1/4 the price of the V77. the V77, by all accounts, is a pretty nice mic (regardless of "for the money" or "for cheap chinese mics").

just want to make sure we're all talkin about the same mics here....


cheers,
wade
 
mrface2112 said:
DJL--the V77 is a toob mic and doesn't need a preamp.


Wow, that's a pretty interesting thing to know. I didn't realize it had a built-in gain structure. :D Does it have like a little volume knob on it or something? That would be pretty cool.
 
DJL said:
Why do you guys keep addressing your post to me rather than Stoctony? I'm not the one asking the questions about MXL mics, Stoctony is asking.

Cuz' you're the only one still reading this dog of a thread. :D

And yea, I wanna' know all about MrFace's mic with self-gain.
 
mrface2112 said:
<<Perhaps you need better pre's brother!>>

funny how people hardly ever take that into consideration when talking about "what mic is better". a V67 through a mackie will sound different than it through a symetrix 528, or a great river or an avalon. the mic is but one link in the chain.

of course, though, with tube mics, pres aren't really an issue....i've been wanting to check out the v69 and v77's, just b/c i'm looking for a cheap toob mic for my vocals--i've already got a dynamic that works well for me (an RE-38).


wade


Excuse me, but where did you get the idea that mic pres cease to be important with a "tube mic"? Are you of the assumption that the power supply for the tube mic somehow negates the need for a decent pre?

Please explain that statement.

Blessings, Terry
 
ummmm.....yeah.....the knob's on the power supply......i didn't realise that made them so cool. :D

did you skip your morning medication today chessrock? :b b/c it's not usual that you're picking nits about people assuming that people know that toob mics need power supplies and that a plain jane preamp won't cut it........hence my comment about "it doesn't need a preamp". next time i won't assume we're all on board with how a toob mic operates here. ;)


and DJL, i addressed you b/c you were the one who i seemingly thought was mistaking the V67 for the V77 and i wanted to make sure that you and Han were on the same page, lest we end up with ugliness due to miscommunication. i could really care less whether any of you buy or even like any of these mics. :D


cheers,
wade
 
ok, hang on folks. this is gonna get out of hand lest i start talking quickly and correcting what i've been leaving out.

YES pres are still needed with tube mics. mea culpa--sorry for misleading any of you and making myself look like a jackass. my point is simply that JUST a preamp won't make a tube mic work--nothing more, nothing less.

serves me right.........posting on this board (and rushing through writing posts) when i should be working instead.


sigh,
wade
 
Why don't you just admit that you didn't know how a tube mic works?

You thought the power supply acted as a mic pre. :D

I think that's kind of cute, and nothing you should be ashamed of, dude. No need to try and back-track.
 
mrface2112 said:
ummmm.....yeah.....the knob's on the power supply......i didn't realise that made them so cool. :D

did you skip your morning medication today chessrock? :b b/c it's not usual that you're picking nits about people assuming that people know that toob mics need power supplies and that a plain jane preamp won't cut it........hence my comment about "it doesn't need a preamp". next time i won't assume we're all on board with how a toob mic operates here. ;)


and DJL, i addressed you b/c you were the one who i seemingly thought was mistaking the V67 for the V77 and i wanted to make sure that you and Han were on the same page, lest we end up with ugliness due to miscommunication. i could really care less whether any of you buy or even like any of these mics. :D


cheers,
wade

Just for clarification, I am the one who questioned your statement about mic pres not being an issue for a tube mic. Perhaps you are confusing mic pre with phantom power.

Blessings, Terry
 
la la la yadda yadda yadda whatever :b

(from now on, i'm only posting from home when i can re-read my posts before i hit send......this rush to hit send and switch windows back to a "work" window gets your dick caught in your zipper sometimes)


wade
 
:P yes, i'm aware of the edit button. i just don't believe in using it after someone's replied to your post.......b/c then you go and edit it and you get all manner of confusion as to what someone said versus what they said they said, etc., etc. how many times have we seen a reply that made no sense b/c someone edited their original post?

much better, IMO, to leave the "bad" post as is and clarify later.....and MUCH more fun once the hounds are after you ;) to me, when you go editing posts people have already replied to, it looks like you're trying to hide things you said and didn't want to admit to having said. :D i'll bone up for having said rash, boneheaded things like the above rather than looking like i'm trying to cover up something through an edited post.

anyway, what was that i said about not being here during work anymore?


wade
 
chessrock said:
It's just not my cup of tea, and in my opinion if you have to plug it in to a Manley in order for it to sound halfway decent, then it could be a sign that it's not a very good mic.

You do realise you've just described the SM57, right? :rolleyes:
 
Wade, you have a point!

In a way you are right Wade, the Neumann M149 toob mic doesn't need a pre.
It is so hot that you can put it into line level.

Now you can say: told you guys! :D
 
So stoctony, after reading the thread... did you get the answer you were looking for?
 
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