Hi -- I tried posting this over on The Gear Page forum, but realized after the fact that it probably wasn't the right venue for the question, so I'm posting here.
tl;dr -- why does some software offer tip + shank (SSD), some offer tip + edge (Toontrack), and some all three (Logic)?
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I am an owner of a all three of the above mentioned packages, and there are times where I am thinking I may want to program using one tool, but then use the kits from another one. I already understand all the gotchas about how Logic does its midi mappings, but the question I am trying to answer is how to reconcile the differences in the actual hi-hat "hits" that each kit makes available, when trying to transpose between tools.
Because I am not a drummer, I am a bit at a loss as to the nuance of why some of the packages offer edge versus shank, or if they're using them synonymously, or what...
Logic's drums use the following (in their advanced GM+ mapping, which I think is most comparable to other tools:
Hi-Hat Tip (varying degrees of open from 1 - 7, with 1 = closed)
Hi-Hat Shank (varying degrees of open from 1 - 7, with 1 = closed)
Hi-Hat Edge (varying degrees of open from 1 - 7, with 1 = closed)
Hi-Hat Foot Close
Hi-Hat Foot Splash
EZDrummer/Superior Drummer use:
Closed Tip
Closed Edge
Tight Tip
Tight Edge
Open (varying degrees 1 - 5) -- ambiguous as to whether it's tip or edge...
Open Pedal ["foot splash"]
Closed Pedal ["foot close"]
Slate uses:
Hi-Hat Tip (5 varying degrees ranging from closed to open)
Hi-Hat Shank (5 varying degrees ranging from closed to open)
Hi-Hat Clamp [seems like this is "foot close"]
Hi-Hat Clamp Ring [seems like this is "foot splash"]
So... it looks like Logic offers tip, shank, and edge voicing
EZDrummer offers Tip and Edge, but no shank
Slate offers Tip and Shank, but no edge.
From what I can hear in Logic, Shank and Edge sound similar but not identical, and as you open the hi-hat, the edge sounds "more open" at a given articulation ID value, but still not the same tonality.
So is Logic providing *more* flexibility than the other packages?
Just curious what others have thought when trying to do this mix and matching between programming tool and playback tool.
tl;dr -- why does some software offer tip + shank (SSD), some offer tip + edge (Toontrack), and some all three (Logic)?
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I am an owner of a all three of the above mentioned packages, and there are times where I am thinking I may want to program using one tool, but then use the kits from another one. I already understand all the gotchas about how Logic does its midi mappings, but the question I am trying to answer is how to reconcile the differences in the actual hi-hat "hits" that each kit makes available, when trying to transpose between tools.
Because I am not a drummer, I am a bit at a loss as to the nuance of why some of the packages offer edge versus shank, or if they're using them synonymously, or what...
Logic's drums use the following (in their advanced GM+ mapping, which I think is most comparable to other tools:
Hi-Hat Tip (varying degrees of open from 1 - 7, with 1 = closed)
Hi-Hat Shank (varying degrees of open from 1 - 7, with 1 = closed)
Hi-Hat Edge (varying degrees of open from 1 - 7, with 1 = closed)
Hi-Hat Foot Close
Hi-Hat Foot Splash
EZDrummer/Superior Drummer use:
Closed Tip
Closed Edge
Tight Tip
Tight Edge
Open (varying degrees 1 - 5) -- ambiguous as to whether it's tip or edge...
Open Pedal ["foot splash"]
Closed Pedal ["foot close"]
Slate uses:
Hi-Hat Tip (5 varying degrees ranging from closed to open)
Hi-Hat Shank (5 varying degrees ranging from closed to open)
Hi-Hat Clamp [seems like this is "foot close"]
Hi-Hat Clamp Ring [seems like this is "foot splash"]
So... it looks like Logic offers tip, shank, and edge voicing
EZDrummer offers Tip and Edge, but no shank
Slate offers Tip and Shank, but no edge.
From what I can hear in Logic, Shank and Edge sound similar but not identical, and as you open the hi-hat, the edge sounds "more open" at a given articulation ID value, but still not the same tonality.
So is Logic providing *more* flexibility than the other packages?
Just curious what others have thought when trying to do this mix and matching between programming tool and playback tool.