Mac vs. PC

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Come on, lets talk about something more productive.

Like which are better:

Dogs or Cats
Chevy or Ford
Lexus or BMW
Democrats or Republicans
Rolling Stones or Led Zepplin

.......?
 
I have heard various rumors... I don't think Motorola is going to continue to make the Power PC. I think the next generation will be IBm, though I have also heard Intel (gasp) mentioned.

Zeppelin is god, except I would have to take Exile on Main Street over anything post Zep 4.
 
velocity engine

one major thing that a mac has over a pc is its velocity engine, it uses a vector processing technology to process in 128bit chunks rather than pc's 32 or 64bit chunks. so it doesnt have to work as hard. its japaneese, its ergonomic
 
I am sorry but there is no such thing as a company saying that they have stretched a technology to the limit and it simply cannot make the G4 any faster than it already is, as has been mentioned in the forum. Sometimes a company might decide that the investment in R&D doesn't justify the profit made from the end result. But trust me if Motorola wanted to develop a 3gHz clock speed CPU then they COULD.

People are very easily infulenced by marketing shite.

Do you guys HONESTLY think that Intel is on the cutting edge of technology and they actually sell the cutting edge technology to CONSUMERS in the form of PCs?

Do you guys really think that NASA runs CPUs at only 3ghz? Thinking that Intels or AMD processors are so great is like thinking that your super dooper FOrd Mustang could out-run an indi-500 car running on aircraft fuel.

Your Mustang is a nice car... but to think that Ford has reached the limit of land speed technology (or that Motorola can't push a CPU any further) is simply naive.
 
I must admit yours is the first objective post in this thread

Really man... at first I thought that you were just annoying and like to start shit on internet forums out of pure bordom... now I am certain that you are just stupid.

I have included the phrase: "Weigh your needs, find out what you feel the most comfortable with, and stick with that." to each post in this forum. That is about as objective as it can get.
 
one major thing that a mac has over a pc is its velocity engine, it uses a vector processing technology to process in 128bit chunks rather than pc's 32 or 64bit chunks.
Ever heard of SSE, or perhaps SSE2? Also, the usefullness of vector processors is highly debateable.
Do you guys really think that NASA runs CPUs at only 3ghz?
I think I read somewhere they use Sun computers, so that puts them at what?...600Mhz? Of course, 32 or 64 600Mhz CPUs is probably a bit faster than one 3Ghz CPU.
 
FanTC® said:
I must admit yours is the first objective post in this thread.

The problem with my dual system is that the software uses one CPU for mixing and the other for recording. So many times one processor was barely used whily the other was over 90%. So my experience with a dual system has not really impressed me. I've read that a dual processor will only give you about 20% extra performance.

Wrong - a dual processor system will use up to 20% of its overhead, depending on how it is controlled.

And it is a fact that Motorola has problems in speeding up the processor.

Problems? Like what. Every chip maker has the same challenge....not problem.


So I really honestly wonder what will be Apples next move....

Maybe you won't have to wonder much longer. Man, why don't you pick up a book or something. Taken from Ace's Hardware:

2.5 GHz PowerPC 970? (CPU)
By Brian Neal
Monday, March 3, 2003 11:14 AM EST
Thanks to Gabriele Svelto for posting about this link discussing the upcoming PowerPC 970. As you know, the PPC970 is a single-core derivative of the POWER4 featuring AltiVec extensions and is also highly rumored to be at the heart of future Apple systems. When we first reported on the 970 last year, the target clock frequency was 1.8 GHz and the SPEC CPU2000 performance estimates were 937 SPECint2000 and 1051 SPECfp2000 (presumably Base not Peak).

However, IBM has raised its previous estimate and is now specifying the chip will run at a range of frequencies between 1.8 GHz and 2.5 GHz. The top end of the range is quite a significant improvement in clockspeed relative to what was expected previously. From the link:


The new IBM PowerPC 970 is the heart of the PowerPC Blade. It is based on the 64-Bit Power 4 architecture which is also used in the processors of the IBM eServer pSeries. The 64-bit microprozessor
· Offers full symmetrical multi-processing
· Has a high reliability (with parity L1, ECC L2 and parity checked system bus)
· Is manufactured in the latest 0,13 micrometer Copper/SOI CMOS technology
· Runs at frequences ranging from 1.8 GHz - 2.5 Ghz
Therefore the IBMPowerPC 970 is the fastest PowerPC so far.
While Apple has long been suspected of being a likely customer for the new chip, here we see that the 970 is also being targeted for server blade applications. The new PowerPC Blades will be able to be used alongside IBM's existing x86-based blades in the eServer BladeCenter chassis

Update: Thanks to Alberto for posting this link from ZDNet indicating that the PPC970 will require a shrink to 0.09µ before reaching 2.5 GHz. This means 1.8 GHz, or a frequency relatively close to it, may still be the fastest 0.13µ 970. The article also indicates that the chip will dissipate 42W at 1.8 GHz. More details can be found in this presentation from MPF 2002.

Discuss This Topic On General: 41 Comments In Thread
Latest Is: Re: Keep buy into the PR that IBM/Mac/Intel/AMD feed to you. By Lightning - 3:57 AM Thu, Mar 6

I personal think the discussion having a Mac or a PC is useless. I mean it's verry hard, if not impossible, to get a real objective discussion.

So why are you still here?
 
mac rocks ya'll hahahahha PC good for gaming and thats about it.

k bye
 
I guess zallen has never enjoyed the speed and stability of a handbuilt dual xeon rig with rdram running under windows xp. beats the hell out of my dual 1.0 ghz mac.
 
zallen25 said:
mac rocks ya'll hahahahha PC good for gaming and thats about it.

k bye

Huh? :rolleyes:

Another aspect with this whole debate is what software can you run. Lets take engineering (not sound) applications....Hmmm, what no engineering apps on Macs? Ah heck, looks like Macs are only good for music, video and desktop publishing! :D
 
hey once again I appologize for making a post that pises people off. I was mainly just looking for the differences between the two...not really a competition. i guess it is just personal prefrence and software capabilities that make them differ?
 
Johnalex said:
hey once again I appologize for making a post that pises people off. I was mainly just looking for the differences between the two...not really a competition. i guess it is just personal prefrence and software capabilities that make them differ?

I do appologize for my contribution in this......mess. It starts to look like a chicken farm.

But to answer your question I think you better do some studdy yourself. And please never ever throw this question in a forum again.
Just kidding. I think all this commotion is real funny.

Good luck
 
therage! said:
Huh? :rolleyes:

Another aspect with this whole debate is what software can you run. Lets take engineering (not sound) applications....Hmmm, what no engineering apps on Macs? Ah heck, looks like Macs are only good for music, video and desktop publishing! :D

which is all i want them to do
 
¿anybody smeLL dead horse???

Y'aLL are some funny mother brothers...
(I ain't mad'atcha...)

Free Your Mind and Your OS wiLL FoLLow...
http://www.fuckmicrosoft.com
 

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Some of us really do spend most of our time MAKING music, really, honest... ;-)

But on occasion... even the best of us need to roll on over to our favourite neighborhood BBS, for a little info on the latest gadget, or maybe we just needed a break from recording, but can't stomach Jerry Springer, so we read threads like this.. hmmm, maybe I shoulda wathced Jerry?

(nah, you're all ok, I just really hope that you're not hiding out here instead of writing, and composing, and crafting those symphonic beats and grooves, and blues) ...see, I start to wonder if these BBS's are just hang outs for failed musicians? Seems like everybody's a critic, and we all know what critics are... failed writers, right? Well, I really do appreciate the time and info that some of you share, so if you're not actualy writing music, keep up the good work reviewing and debating and sharing the knowledge!

Well, back to the grooves and 12 string moves!
 
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