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nopainkiller
Thunderkicks McStrum'em
too kool to die young. everyone else is just mad cuz they aren't sexy enough to own a ric. I do pity them. I mean look at what they're clinging to! Les Pauls are nothing special. It's like buying a VOLVO!!! Be a man! Be individual. get a Rickenbacker. I say ric, just cus I love rics. By ANY guitar. Just not a freakin LP. Go SG. Gibson makes some cool guitars, but I'll never understand the appeal of that thing.
Light talks crap about the ric, cuase they're such great instruments, it takes forever to set them up! lol. that's precision craftmenship. Made in america, fool! Gibson may have had a hand in humbuckers, but Ric pioneered electric instruments. they know what theyre doing, so don't be mad, cus you gotta use what you know a little but more. I don't see how needing to order special parts for a lambourgini makes it a shitty design and acrappy car.
Light talks crap about the ric, cuase they're such great instruments, it takes forever to set them up! lol. that's precision craftmenship. Made in america, fool! Gibson may have had a hand in humbuckers, but Ric pioneered electric instruments. they know what theyre doing, so don't be mad, cus you gotta use what you know a little but more. I don't see how needing to order special parts for a lambourgini makes it a shitty design and acrappy car.
Tadpui
Well-known member
Chrissakes, we get it: you don't like Les Pauls. Terrific. That's why there are more than one make and model of guitars, so we can each play what we like. I haven't even heard any objective complaints from you towards LPs other than their neck shape. Which is strange because you endorse SGs, which have a very similar neck shape to most LPs. Jebus, just let it go and stay as far away from LPs as you possibly can so your curiosly negative anxiety about them will stay safely below the surface!
Anyways, to the OP, I'm not sure what a Les Paul SL actually is. Is that a Studio Ltd? Or is it one of the LP Special SL models? I'm having trouble digging up any info on the SL model since I'm not sure what I"m looking for.
Just remember that you're talking about 2 totally different signature sounds. LPs are a bit darker, great for blues soloing and excellent for driving, heavy single-note riffs. They're not the most inspiring instrument through an amp's clean channel but their crunch and heavy distortion potential is just vast.
But the Ric is going to be brighter, jangly, more suited for rhythm playing and bright, piercing solos. They seem to take to clean channels and slight/medium crunch. I can't imagine that they'd be too inspiring with higher gain settings though. Pair one with a bright amp like an AC30 or Fender Twin and you could probably deafen all of your friends in a night
Anyways, to the OP, I'm not sure what a Les Paul SL actually is. Is that a Studio Ltd? Or is it one of the LP Special SL models? I'm having trouble digging up any info on the SL model since I'm not sure what I"m looking for.
Just remember that you're talking about 2 totally different signature sounds. LPs are a bit darker, great for blues soloing and excellent for driving, heavy single-note riffs. They're not the most inspiring instrument through an amp's clean channel but their crunch and heavy distortion potential is just vast.
But the Ric is going to be brighter, jangly, more suited for rhythm playing and bright, piercing solos. They seem to take to clean channels and slight/medium crunch. I can't imagine that they'd be too inspiring with higher gain settings though. Pair one with a bright amp like an AC30 or Fender Twin and you could probably deafen all of your friends in a night
muttley600
Banned
You really have no idea about what you are talking about and I'm calling you out. The axe you are grinding has just gone right down to the handle. Go away.
zazz
hmmmm
i have a few guitars...and i have owned a rick ...i have to say that as a rule les pauls are as solid as you are likely to get ....i would also say telecaster but thats not in the offing.....but ricks ...no way ....slightly dodgy for staying in tune....sure there will be exceptions but as a rule the construction isnt there. les paul ...solid glued neck ..mahogony ...you could club somone to death with it and play a gig on the same night without having to touch the heads.
jimistone
long standing member
I didn't know that when an instrument has precision craftmanship it takes forever to set it up.
Damn...you learn something new everyday.
I always thought that strats and les pauls were easy to set up. I guess they are not precision instruments.
Damn...you learn something new everyday.
I always thought that strats and les pauls were easy to set up. I guess they are not precision instruments.
zazz
hmmmm
eh?? maybe im missing something ..they are both a piece of piss to set up...or maybe you are being sarcastic....my bad
the rick has a great sound but that is partly to do with its less than stellar solid construction. If you look at the likes of say clapton..townsend or richards ..they have all been through the mill but all seem to gravitate to the tele and strat ..and with good reason. They are just trying to get the job done. I think townsend is a great example....he was famous for the rick ..moved on to the les paul but realised that the strat was more versatile. For me the les paul is great but it does tend to do one type of sound very well.....i hate the look of the strat and its image ...but that aside its really a very good all rounder.
the rick has a great sound but that is partly to do with its less than stellar solid construction. If you look at the likes of say clapton..townsend or richards ..they have all been through the mill but all seem to gravitate to the tele and strat ..and with good reason. They are just trying to get the job done. I think townsend is a great example....he was famous for the rick ..moved on to the les paul but realised that the strat was more versatile. For me the les paul is great but it does tend to do one type of sound very well.....i hate the look of the strat and its image ...but that aside its really a very good all rounder.
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jimistone
long standing member
eh?? maybe im missing something ..they are both a piece of piss to set up...or maybe you are being sarcastic....my bad
There is no easier guitar in the world to set up than a strat IMO. (teles are a bit harder sometimes depending on the type of saddle used)
Les pauls are pretty easy too.
That's if you know how to set one up to start with. I admit that setting up ANY guitar...before I learn exactly how to do it....was a bitch. Knowing how to adjust the truss for desired relief, the bridge for desired action and proper intonation, and pickup hights for best tone and output is VITAL! Once you know how to properly set all these varibles it's not that hard.
Bottom line is this:
If the neck isn't warped
If the frets are properly leveld, dressed, and polished
If the nut is correctly cut
If the tailpiece is properly centered on the body
If the keys are worth a fuck
If the truss rod is functional
If the saddles are adjustable up/down and frontwards/backwards
...the setup is easy
All of the things listed above have to do with craftmanship. Alot of these things might not be quite right on a cheap assed guitar ($99 epiphones come to mind)
That being said, ANY guitar should be easy to set up if it was built with a high degree of craftmanship.
DrewPeterson7
Sage of the Order
Are you kidding me? :lol:
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zinc1024
New member
I was going to say it but someone already did, so I'll just reinforce it...Heritage makes a better Les Paul than Gibson these days.
Otherwise, I'll suggest you split the difference between the LP and the R. and get a good mid-80's 335 dot neck reissue, a very nice and extremely versatile guitar that you should be able to find in the $800 price range.
Otherwise, I'll suggest you split the difference between the LP and the R. and get a good mid-80's 335 dot neck reissue, a very nice and extremely versatile guitar that you should be able to find in the $800 price range.
muttley600
Banned
Guys, Dead thread alert.
The guy has probably bought both a LP and a RIC and sold them on he is now likely playing an old L5 or a firebird it depends on what sort of music he gravitated towards after 2001. Or he could be into banjo or mandolin, a lot can happen in 6 or seven years.
This thread was revived by someone who knows less about guitars than my wife and she thinks some of them are "quite pretty". I've called him out, lets see what he has to say before we prolong this.
We can all argue one guitar against another but heres the rub, they are tools you use one to make some noise, move some air, thats what music is.
As far as the RIC v LP thing goes, here is a bit of truth from someone who has worked on more guitars than the lot of you have owned and built a fair number as well. The RIC will cost you more to maintain, they take longer to do even a simple setup on. Thats not opinion that bit is fact. They are still cool so are all the others.
Other than that carry own and love your guitar of choice they are all great. In the meantime just let this thread die. I think it's about time..
The guy has probably bought both a LP and a RIC and sold them on he is now likely playing an old L5 or a firebird it depends on what sort of music he gravitated towards after 2001. Or he could be into banjo or mandolin, a lot can happen in 6 or seven years.
This thread was revived by someone who knows less about guitars than my wife and she thinks some of them are "quite pretty". I've called him out, lets see what he has to say before we prolong this.
We can all argue one guitar against another but heres the rub, they are tools you use one to make some noise, move some air, thats what music is.
As far as the RIC v LP thing goes, here is a bit of truth from someone who has worked on more guitars than the lot of you have owned and built a fair number as well. The RIC will cost you more to maintain, they take longer to do even a simple setup on. Thats not opinion that bit is fact. They are still cool so are all the others.
Other than that carry own and love your guitar of choice they are all great. In the meantime just let this thread die. I think it's about time..
zazz
hmmmm
oh yeah...damn ...there should be a law against posts to old threads...so people trawl these areas and reply to them...jeeez
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Corndog
New member
...bump...Rics STILL suck....
nopainkiller
Thunderkicks McStrum'em
called me out on what? You didn't have to be an asshole about it. Les Pauls suck. It's like beer or wine.
nopainkiller
Thunderkicks McStrum'em
It's the internet!! Suck it up! Jeez!!
These are two guitars that could never sound like each other. They're two disticnt sounds. It taste, I like rythm playing, not flashy fancy finger crap. I like trebly jangly music, and ever Les Paul I've played feels like a 2X4 in my hands. SGs have flatter bodies, you know this.
I posted in this old thread, cuz I wanted to hear people talk about ric vs LPs. You're an asshole.
can't beleive how defensive people get about les pauls when it comes to rics...
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Rickson Gracie
New member
I love my ric 350v63. its a beautiful looking, sounding and playing instrument.
Its not the most versatile though. Not as versatile as a LP but what it does it does awesome. Jangly rock and roll: clean and dirty.
Its not the most versatile though. Not as versatile as a LP but what it does it does awesome. Jangly rock and roll: clean and dirty.
trancedental
New member
I'd agree with most of this, whilst I like 335 type semi's & their variants I really think Les Pauls are ugly guitars.
Rickenbackers are more versatile than many believe, I've heard people playing them through Marshall stacks & getting a thick rock sound, & the neck pickup can get into 335 blues tones.
What makes the Les Paul so versatile, when I think of that term a Strat comes to mind? I wouldn't even say that 335's are that versatile myself.
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Rickson Gracie
New member
muttley600
Banned
I'm not calling you out not because I like or hate rics or LP's, I'm calling you out because you are a useless troll who knows shit about guitars. Most if not all you have posted in this thread and others has been deliberately designed to get people to rise to your bait so I'm doing it, all of it has been bollox of the first order. You have no idea what sort of guitar I like or dislike and you likely never will. Some here do.
Go on suck it up. Jeez I'm so bullied by your superior cool and outstanding experience and intellect. What a fool I really am. We are not worthy.
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dogonjon
New member
Play nice!
oh yeah...damn ...there should be a law against posts to old threads...so people trawl these areas and reply to them...jeeez
...bump...Rics STILL suck....
Being New to this forum when an old thread gets resurrected the debate can be insightful. Every one is entitled to their opinion but lets keep the expletives and personal insults to the private messages. I like both beer and wine. I hate bad beer and bad wine. Bad beer is fortified malt liquors like Old English 800, bad wines are like MD 20/20 aka maddog. People who use these poisons are responsible for public urination, defecation, create an unsanitary, unsightly nuisance in parks and the entry ways to convenience stores. Ric's and LP's are both fine instruments as I own both. I have never pissed or shit myself in public while using them.