ocnor
Lord Of The Thighs
Good catch! I was so focused on the speaker types that I spaced that part off. It seems that I may have been a bit too hasty in discounting that little beast from my recording amp search.sile2001 said:
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jonnyc
New member
I've been getting really decent sounds out of this amp lately. I almost used it over my Mesa for a recent project but I couldn't convince the guitar player. Just the name Mesa mesmerizes most guitar players I have in. I really love this little amp though, especially thru a lower watt single 12" cab.
jimistone
long standing member
OK here it is....
I layed down a lead guitar track with the Epi valve jr today.
guitar: epi flying V with seymore duncan '59 humbuckers
(neck/bridge position on toggle switch)
epi valve jr head into 8 ohm 12" eminance enclosed in homemade plywood box
Mic setup:
Studio Projects C1 mic/ into a Studio Projects VTB-1 mic pre
korg D1600 recorder.
I had the valve jr head volume set at 12:00
guitar straight into the amp
Tube blend on the VTB-1 at about 12:00
The only effect is a slight bit of limiting to tame the dynamics just a tad.
I mixed the guitar part pretty hot in the mix...so y'all can hear the amp clearly.
Please don't bash the performance on the guitar...
...this was off the top of my head and not a rehearsed guitar ride.
I just wanted to demonstrate the Epiphone Valve Jr head.
I think it rocks!
Epiphone Valve Junior Shuffle!
I layed down a lead guitar track with the Epi valve jr today.
guitar: epi flying V with seymore duncan '59 humbuckers
(neck/bridge position on toggle switch)
epi valve jr head into 8 ohm 12" eminance enclosed in homemade plywood box
Mic setup:
Studio Projects C1 mic/ into a Studio Projects VTB-1 mic pre
korg D1600 recorder.
I had the valve jr head volume set at 12:00
guitar straight into the amp
Tube blend on the VTB-1 at about 12:00
The only effect is a slight bit of limiting to tame the dynamics just a tad.
I mixed the guitar part pretty hot in the mix...so y'all can hear the amp clearly.
Please don't bash the performance on the guitar...
...this was off the top of my head and not a rehearsed guitar ride. I just wanted to demonstrate the Epiphone Valve Jr head.
I think it rocks!
Epiphone Valve Junior Shuffle!
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cubanorocker316
New member
congrats
congrats on gettin the new amp Bob, ive actually been looking fr a new amp, a tube preferably, do you think this amp is loud enough for gigging a metal show ?
thanks alott man, and once again congrats, and have fun
P.S. if you get a chance id also like to get some of those sound clips
- Lou
congrats on gettin the new amp Bob, ive actually been looking fr a new amp, a tube preferably, do you think this amp is loud enough for gigging a metal show ?
thanks alott man, and once again congrats, and have fun
P.S. if you get a chance id also like to get some of those sound clips
- Lou
jimistone
long standing member
cubanorocker316 said:
I don't think this amp is loud enough for a metal gig....it's not even loud enough for a country gig IMO.
it's good for recording though...check out my sound clip from my last post bro.
Lt. Bob
Spread the Daf!
Hey JIMI ..... nice of you to post that clip ...... that's how it sounds .... you did a good job of capturing that. Decent playing ..... is that you on everything .... is it an old recording you just added to ..... what?
Yeah ..... I'm really glad I forked out the bill to get it ...... it's quiet enough to record it wide open any time you want and not have any problems with anyone.
No way unless you mic it and have it loud in the monitors. Even then I think it has more of a bluesy sort of sound rather than a modern hi-gain. I've used it on a couple of gigs and it was fine 'till it got louder than very soft.
It's a wonderful recording amp.
Yeah ..... I'm really glad I forked out the bill to get it ...... it's quiet enough to record it wide open any time you want and not have any problems with anyone.
cubanorocker316 said:
No way unless you mic it and have it loud in the monitors. Even then I think it has more of a bluesy sort of sound rather than a modern hi-gain. I've used it on a couple of gigs and it was fine 'till it got louder than very soft.
It's a wonderful recording amp.
jimistone
long standing member
Lt. Bob said:
Hey Lt. Bob, thanks for checking my amp demo clip out.
No that is not an old recording of mine, it's just backing tracks I got from guitar center. I was going to enter a guitar playing contest "Guitarzilla"...this track was one of the blues catagory tracks.
I just skimmed through the CD (23 tracks), played 1 second of each tune...I liked this one and though I wasn't really familiar with it yet...
I layed down this loosely improvised guitar part.
You probably noticed that I played the 1st few bars pretty well...then kinda fell apart because i didn't really know where I wanted to go.
Anyway....I wanted to demo the amp head so I said "what the hell" and posted it.
Im like you...I would be hard pressed to think of a better investment for a $100 bill in terms of a studio guitar amp.
Im very pleased!
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notCardio
I walk the line
Hey Jimi
So when you say you had the amp at 12:00, I take it that means halfway up?
So how much more amp (not speaker) breakup do you get when you go full-tilt boogie? And how much less when you turn it down to 1/4?
And nice playing, man. I wish that was what I sounded like on a throw-away track.
So when you say you had the amp at 12:00, I take it that means halfway up?
So how much more amp (not speaker) breakup do you get when you go full-tilt boogie? And how much less when you turn it down to 1/4?
And nice playing, man. I wish that was what I sounded like on a throw-away track.
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jonnyc
New member
notCardio said:
Well thru my 4x12 it did get kinda dirty once you cranked it, though thru a lower wattage speaker it starts really breaking up nice around 3/4. At 1/4 it's pretty damn clean. At 1/2, for me at least, it just had a nice overdriven sound, nothing too dirty.
ocnor
Lord Of The Thighs
I know OD pedals have been mentioned but has anyone tried running a guitar preamp into it to get more of a Marshall-ish tone? It would be nice to get a little power tube sag without the ear bleeding db levels.
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notCardio
I walk the line
And Jimi
That was a single 12"?
jonnyc,
So was Jimi's sound about what you get at 1/2? Or more, or less dirt?
I'm looking for something a little more overdriven than that, but not a whole lot. But very quietly.
I'm sure this is the wrong place to ask it, but anybody ever try to return a head to GC?
That was a single 12"?
jonnyc,
So was Jimi's sound about what you get at 1/2? Or more, or less dirt?
I'm looking for something a little more overdriven than that, but not a whole lot. But very quietly.
I'm sure this is the wrong place to ask it, but anybody ever try to return a head to GC?
Lt. Bob
Spread the Daf!
I think it's sweet spot for leads is around 3/4 ..... it kinda gets that endless Carlos sustain without being too dirty ..... wide open it's pretty dirty.
I bet the preamp would work well. It responded to my Bluesdriver very well.
I bet the preamp would work well. It responded to my Bluesdriver very well.
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jonnyc
New member
notCardio said:
Yeah, sounded about like Jimi's clip.
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faderbug
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it seems like this post is not to the point but in a way is is the most to the point in a long time.
that valve junior is one hell of an amp!!!
that valve junior is one hell of an amp!!!
jimistone
long standing member
yes by 12:00 I mean volume half way up.notCardio said:
It gets very distorted at "full tilt"...think Steely Dan "reelin' in the years"
I was not going for the very distorted sound on this sample.
IMO the very distorted sound is not that hard to get at low volume...most distortion pedals do a decent job of accomplishing that.
The tube amp ..."clean and cranked"...is the tough sound to get at low volume. It is an essential sound when doing blues guitar tracking.
You usually have to crank a fender tube amp to ear spitting volume levels to nail that sound.
That was the sound I was going for...IMO the valve jr. pulled it off well!
The volume was very low on the amp for that track...but it sounds like it is CRANKED!
jimistone
long standing member
Yes.notCardio said:
A 12" emminance I built a chezzy looking plywood box for.
No measuring....just got a jigsaw and "eyeballed it" (except the circle cut for the speaker...I traced it from a pattern)
I nailed it together with finish nails and stuffed insulation in the cracks
Ain't pretty but it sounds good huh?
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notCardio
I walk the line
jimistone said:
Well, crap, now I guess I HAVE to get one. The opening notes to the solo in Reelin' is one of my favorite recorded sounds of all time.
I gotta quit hangin' out here. I can't afford it.
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soundchaser59
Reluctant Commander
Any idea why Gibson doesn't want to repair the hum in my VJ Combo? I got one at a super discount, thinking I could get the hum fixed under warranty.
Aint happenin! Gibson says if the amp is "up to original spec" then there is no repair to authorize, even though the "original spec" is a flawed spec that causes the nasty hum. Even though the newer versions of the same amp have no hum because Gibson fixed the design flaw, which proves that they are aware of a known problem. The fix is simple (power supply filtering, input jack ground) but they wont touch it.
Those people at Gibson royally pissed me off today. I cancelled my order for the other VJ heads I was going to buy.
Aint happenin! Gibson says if the amp is "up to original spec" then there is no repair to authorize, even though the "original spec" is a flawed spec that causes the nasty hum. Even though the newer versions of the same amp have no hum because Gibson fixed the design flaw, which proves that they are aware of a known problem. The fix is simple (power supply filtering, input jack ground) but they wont touch it.
Those people at Gibson royally pissed me off today. I cancelled my order for the other VJ heads I was going to buy.
scrubs
Not of sound mind
jimistone said:
Sounds good, jimi. Thanks for posting that.
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mikeh
New member
Lt. Bob - or anyone else who may want to offer opinions.
How does the Epi compare to a Fender Blues Junior. The reason I ask, I don't have any speaker cabs - so I would have to buy a cab, or at least buy a speaker and build a cab. If I pay $100 for the Epi and maybe $70 for a good speaker I'm already at $170 and by the time I add in the other supplies (wood, jacks, speaker cable, etc), not to mention the value of the sweat equity (I hate spending my little spare time on "projects") - I will be at $200 plus.
I can buy a Blues Jr for $299
I record mostly "new country" type of tracks (I really don't do any crunch metal, etc.) using mainly a Tele or Strat (although I do have an SG & and Epi Dot for times when I don't want a single coil "sound"). I know the Blues Jr. can do clean well - but I haven't seen any specific reference to the Epi clean sound.
Guitar is not my main axe and I have been using a Pod 2.0 and/or a J-Station for amp sims. I have an old Fender Champ (I have to crank it too loud) and a couple of other small amps (Roland Cube, etc) - but I really want to try the sound of a tube amp. However, I really don't want to spend much more than $300. I use an ME-50 for my "stomp boxes"
I'm finally getting to a point as a guitar player where I understand that tone comes from fingers--->guitar--->amp and the simulations simply don't respond the way I beleive an amp can. So after many failed attempts to get tone (the Holy Grail) from sims, small solid state amps, etc - I'm starting to understand why many guitarists already endorse tube amps - so now I have to decide on which amp.
So - anyone have any thoughts????
How does the Epi compare to a Fender Blues Junior. The reason I ask, I don't have any speaker cabs - so I would have to buy a cab, or at least buy a speaker and build a cab. If I pay $100 for the Epi and maybe $70 for a good speaker I'm already at $170 and by the time I add in the other supplies (wood, jacks, speaker cable, etc), not to mention the value of the sweat equity (I hate spending my little spare time on "projects") - I will be at $200 plus.
I can buy a Blues Jr for $299
I record mostly "new country" type of tracks (I really don't do any crunch metal, etc.) using mainly a Tele or Strat (although I do have an SG & and Epi Dot for times when I don't want a single coil "sound"). I know the Blues Jr. can do clean well - but I haven't seen any specific reference to the Epi clean sound.
Guitar is not my main axe and I have been using a Pod 2.0 and/or a J-Station for amp sims. I have an old Fender Champ (I have to crank it too loud) and a couple of other small amps (Roland Cube, etc) - but I really want to try the sound of a tube amp. However, I really don't want to spend much more than $300. I use an ME-50 for my "stomp boxes"
I'm finally getting to a point as a guitar player where I understand that tone comes from fingers--->guitar--->amp and the simulations simply don't respond the way I beleive an amp can. So after many failed attempts to get tone (the Holy Grail) from sims, small solid state amps, etc - I'm starting to understand why many guitarists already endorse tube amps - so now I have to decide on which amp.
So - anyone have any thoughts????