Joe Meek vs DMP3

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chessrock said:
Neither.

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I think the DMP3 provides a good, clean, transparent signal. I don't see anything wrong with it although I've never used any professional preamps before so I have nothing to compare it to.

What would you recommend? And what do you find wrong about the DMP3? Just curious.
 
I will receive my DMP3 next week... don´t know exactly what expect on vocals,but listening some songs here I´m impressed how clean it sounds on acoustic guitars, thats where I want to use it a lot.

Ciro.
 
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I can't legally state how much waves cost...if that helps ;) I've settled on the
at3035, going into the dmp3, into the firebox...i'll post how it works in a week or two.
 
Welcome to the BBS!

The DMP3 is a great choice for a preamp. I have and love one, and as I've graduated to better preamps, I still use the DMP for all kinds of stuff. It will always make a good direct box.



Not paying for Waves is a really, really poor choice and will lose you respect on this board. It already has done that. Not funny, not cool and not kidding.


There's a reason for that. The reason is that software engineers really work on this stuff and when they get deep sixed by their employers for lack of revenue it hurts them and their families. It is not about the "big corporations." It's really about taking something that is not yours to take: particularly when there are good alternatives available to you for very little money - much less than the cost of the DMP3, and particularly when you are doing it to advance something you claim to care about.

Try something in the middle - use only what you pay for (assuming you're paying for the preamp) and make better choices about what you get. Try a google search on "Reaper audio" and download a trial version. Then when it knocks your socks off, send in the !paltry! registration fee and use it knowing that you can make good music without stepping on other people to do it. Leave Waves alone until you have the jingle to own it honestly.

It's really that simple. Anything less is not honest and you'll find it will be treated as not honest.
 
danny.guitar said:
I think the DMP3 provides a good, clean, transparent signal. I don't see anything wrong with it although I've never used any professional preamps before so I have nothing to compare it to.

What would you recommend? And what do you find wrong about the DMP3? Just curious.

Nothing wrong with it. I just don't think that either of the units currently under discussion have what is refered to as "Professional Sound -- Radio Quality," which is what the poster initially asked about.

I just think that, for the most part, one would be hard-pressed to find many professional recordings regulary being played on the radio that utilize either of these two, and there may be a reason for it. That's not to say that one can't get perfectly acceptable results out of them, because either one is certainly much more than acceptable for the price, and can make great demo recordings, indie releases, etc. for a modest project studio.
 
Awesome advice guys...def. going with the dmp3. As for waves... $1600 is a bit steep for a poor student of music to pay. The music business is the most corrupt business outside politics, and I assure you, the designers of waves, "the world's leader in recording software", were paid handsomely for their inspired work. Also, they most likely reaped the bonus of their software becoming one of the most widely used in the music industry. However, the artists using this software, aside from label funded, fork out their savings account to pay for what they think will make their record aesthetically pleasing to the ears, so that one day, maybe, they have enough cash to pay for an extraordinarily expensive piece of software, like waves. I wouldn't say it stealing money...they've already been paid.... Waves is no ma and pop chain scrounging for money, if it were, I'd agree, taking the software would be awful...but the fact is, its far from it.
 
velvetcrush said:
Awesome advice guys...def. going with the dmp3. As for waves... $1600 is a bit steep for a poor student of music to pay. The music business is the most corrupt business outside politics, and I assure you, the designers of waves, "the world's leader in recording software", were paid handsomely for their inspired work. Also, they most likely reaped the bonus of their software becoming one of the most widely used in the music industry. However, the artists using this software, aside from label funded, fork out their savings account to pay for what they think will make their record aesthetically pleasing to the ears, so that one day, maybe, they have enough cash to pay for an extraordinarily expensive piece of software, like waves. I wouldn't say it stealing money...they've already been paid.... Waves is no ma and pop chain scrounging for money, if it were, I'd agree, taking the software would be awful...but the fact is, its far from it.


You can give excuses all you want, we've heard it ALL trust me. Simple fact is, if you can't afford it then download some freeware, there are plenty of really good free vst's floating around. I've also used a plethora of cheap plugs that kick the ever living shit out of all that is Waves. I'm down with the big "fuck you" to Waves but I'm not down with people not paying for it when they use it, no matter what your excuse is. Get straight and you'll get some respect.
 
You're a music student, I see.

So I suppose if you should ever release anything using this pirated software, that you would encourage people to download your original music illegally? Or to sneak in to your performances without paying?

I'll be sure to keep that in mind. That is, if your music is even worthwhile -- which is doubtful.

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If you have advice on which freeware to use that is better than waves, than please, I insist, and I'll use it. I have absolutely no problem with the downloading of music. Major artists actually promote this...Bowie, Gabriel,etc. It promotes the music - which is afterall, the main point - its not the fucking money, its the art - and I'd say, if the art is good enough, people will buy it just to have it. Also, on sneaking into concerts. If the concert promoter would stop fucking the fans, and charging 200 bills to see the stones( for one ie.) , then no one would sneak in.
 
velvetcrush said:
If you have advice on which freeware to use that is better than waves, than please, I insist, and I'll use it. I have absolutely no problem with the downloading of music. Major artists actually promote this...Bowie, Gabriel,etc. It promotes the music - which is afterall, the main point - its not the fucking money, its the art - and I'd say, if the art is good enough, people will buy it just to have it. Also, on sneaking into concerts. If the concert promoter would stop fucking the fans, and charging 200 bills to see the stones( for one ie.) , then no one would sneak in.


You really think it's the promoters charging that, at this point the Stones do what THEY want, not some promoter. As far as the vst's go, look for yourself, not my job to make your life easy. There are plenty of threads on here dealing with free vst's. I'm also guessing you're probably using a cracked version of Cubase SX3 too, am I right? Or are you "sharing" that with someone too? Again, you're not saying anything here that every other pirate hasn't said, it's all the same bullshit you guys spout, "oh it's about the music" or "fuck waves they make enough money" or "I'm a poor dumb son of a bitch and have no morals". It's probably better if you hang on the pirate forums rather than come here, or, as I said earlier, get legit and apologize for being a thief. Ok I'm off to steal a Triton Extreme, after all, it's all about the music.
 
Can you not see that growing orange and red bar?? Dude... just shut up...
 
i'm gonna swipe a neve console tonight....legally, of course, cause it's for the music
 
Ironklad Audio said:
i'm gonna swipe a neve console tonight....legally, of course, cause it's for the music

Will you get me one while you're at it? :D
 
I don't really think it's totally up to the promoters...and last I knew, most artists really make the most of their money touring - it's how they make a damn living. Ohh wait, it's for the art not the money. :rolleyes:
 
Let's just pull all our thumbs out our tight asses now mates. If it's not the promoters jacking prices, than why does Eddie Vedder talk about it all the time. Why do bands release footage of there concerts free to fans, no wait, its not because promoters jack prices...it must be the bands...ahh yes, makes much sense. Why would U2 make the best seats the cheapest...because the promoters jack prices, and ruin the experience for true fans....why does Petty do the same........cause they care about true fans, hearing the music, for the music. At the end of the day, they've made there money. And please people...do you see anyone sneaking into concerts...its bullshit...no one does it. ...maybe 5 out of 5000. And i'll say thats tops...one in one thousand. The internet is the new medium - get with it. My record collection is immense, I don't download it because I want a piece of it...i want the cover. But do i shit on people downloading ...no. The actual artist sees a one penny off the sale of that one cd, so you fuck the corrupt label, and the corrupt distributor. If you like them, see them live, thats where they make their money, and share something with you. HOW in the world did your illogical minds go from cracking a piece of software (which the designer already got paid for), all the way to sneaking into concerts...what the fuck? Talk about taking it to far. Music Industry 101 people...its a fucking sham. Artists get fucked, fans get fucked, business people (which you all sound like to me), make alot of fucking money. Cheers.
 
velvetcrush said:
Artists get fucked, fans get fucked, business people (which you all sound like to me), make alot of fucking money. Cheers.


It's also the mail room guy, the janitor, and the customer service personel for the software company who get screwed in the end by people who don't pay for the software.

Lost revenue generally means lost jobs. And it generally isn't the developers who are on the losing end, but rather the blue collar types who work hard for the company trying to support families.

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velvetcrush said:
Let's just pull all our thumbs out our tight asses now mates. If it's not the promoters jacking prices, than why does Eddie Vedder talk about it all the time. Why do bands release footage of there concerts free to fans, no wait, its not because promoters jack prices...it must be the bands...ahh yes, makes much sense. Why would U2 make the best seats the cheapest...because the promoters jack prices, and ruin the experience for true fans....why does Petty do the same........cause they care about true fans, hearing the music, for the music. At the end of the day, they've made there money. And please people...do you see anyone sneaking into concerts...its bullshit...no one does it. ...maybe 5 out of 5000. And i'll say thats tops...one in one thousand. The internet is the new medium - get with it. My record collection is immense, I don't download it because I want a piece of it...i want the cover. But do i shit on people downloading ...no. The actual artist sees a one penny off the sale of that one cd, so you fuck the corrupt label, and the corrupt distributor. If you like them, see them live, thats where they make their money, and share something with you. HOW in the world did your illogical minds go from cracking a piece of software (which the designer already got paid for), all the way to sneaking into concerts...what the fuck? Talk about taking it to far. Music Industry 101 people...its a fucking sham. Artists get fucked, fans get fucked, business people (which you all sound like to me), make alot of fucking money. Cheers.

Most of what this worthless attempt at some sort of explanation is saying is bullshit and just goes to show that you really don't have a clue. You're just recycling shit you've heard from other clueless motherfuckers. Why don't you just take your poor pitiful self and run along now, get a clue and a job.
 
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