Japanese/Wierd 60's and 70's guitars a bargain?

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I went browsing on ebay yesterday and i found lots of vintage guitars, and old guitars and they were CHEAP.

Where they made with solid tops?
How is the generall quality?
Any special brands to look out for?

There were also many guitars made by an Italian company called "Eko"...
Heard of them?

www.ebay.co.uk
 
I'd get one just for kicks and to have something with a completely different sound.
 
Eko is junk, stay away from them.

As far as vintage 70's Jap-made guitars go, Ibanez and Aria are safe bets. Both were very well-built guitars that were actually higher quality than Norlin era Gibson's from the same time period.

I just scored this '71 Aria SG for $325 two weeks ago...

http://www.dipintoguitars.com/vintage/solid electrics/AriaSG.htm

Plays and sounds just like a vintage Gibson SG... no lie!!! :):)
 
That's so odd that that guitar sounds like an SG. A bolt on maple neck, an alder body....your basic formula for a Strat or Tele. IT has humbuckers and a tuneomatic, but I would still expect more of a Fender with humbuckers sound than an SG sound from it. The shape of the guitar is pretty irrelevant to what it should sound like. You would think the actual composition would mean more.

btw- I have a mid 60's Japan no name guitar out in my storage building in a bucket. I took the neck off, just a bolt on, and took it apart but never got back to putting it back together. I think I messed it up enough that it's pretty much just firewood now. It kind of looks like a Jazzmaster/Jaguar blens.

H2H
 
Nice!

I've got an Ibanez AM70 from the 70's. Like an ES-335 but with a smaller body. Burst finish. Weighs a ton. Beautiful piece of work. I paid like $250 for it ten years ago.
 
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I've been looking at some old twelve strings. If they are in good shape after 40 years, and were made with solid top (were they??),they must surely have a lovely tone.
 
Hard2Hear said:
That's so odd that that guitar sounds like an SG. A bolt on maple neck, an alder body....your basic formula for a Strat or Tele. IT has humbuckers and a tuneomatic, but I would still expect more of a Fender with humbuckers sound than an SG sound from it. The shape of the guitar is pretty irrelevant to what it should sound like. You would think the actual composition would mean more.

Yep, but it does sound like an SG, though.

Weird, ain't it? :)
 
I guess 90% of japanese guitars made before 1970 are junk ... lets not forget ....

"made in japan" in these times is like "made in china" today + they did not have half the guitar builiding knowledge the chinese or indonesians have today.

the whole picture changed after the big dogs got into japan and showed them how to make good guitars. Then - basically the same we have seen on the automotive sector happened: the japanes copied like crazy and came up with copies better than the originals.

So a good bet would be to score a post 73 or so aria or any other brand that was made in the matsumoko factory.

just my 0.02
alfred
 
I have owned several Japanese guitars, acoustic and electric, made in the '60's. Each of them was a perfectly useful guitar after lengthy setup, except for one acoustic, which, after extensive rebuilding, is now my main acoustic ax (details below).

The early '60's Japanese guitars, as someone already noted, were roughly the equivalent of current Chinese, but without the CDC machines. As the decade progressed they got better and better. There's a reason you see them for sale "cheap."

All of the electrics were useable, even though a couple were pretty ugly. One came with an amplifier I paid $40 for. The necks were OK, the sound not much, but intonation was good and they responded to setup.

Two of the electrics were solid, two more were thin archtops. I still have one, a Ventura Chet Atkins "copy" w bolt-on neck and single coils. Both had cheapo Bigsby knockoffs, with pitiful bridges. Both bridges were replaced with tunamatics, and the Chet Atkins eventually got Gotohs. Again, the necks worked fine with a little setup, and the sound was much better than the solid bodies (maybe they were later).

Two acoustics: a 6 and a 12. The 12 was a copy of a D-28-12, and decent, but with a thin neck. The 6 had a horrible plywood top: nice close grain spruce on the outside, Phillipine packing-crate mahogany on the inside, with braces laid out like floor joists. It too had a thin neck, and is still in my collection, with the substitution, by a local luthier, of the plywood with bear-claw spruce, a Guild-style bridge, and a neck reset; it also has Gotoh tuners now. I had the luthier leave the Japanese label inside.

The prices were reasonable: solid bodies: one for free with an amp (an excellent 1963 Sears Silvertone Twin Twelve, which I still have -- best $40 I ever spent), the next one $7 at a garage sale, $20 for one archtop ditto, $75 for the "Chet Atkins", $35 for the 6-string acoustic and $45 for the 12.

They are great to learn to tinker on, and you can usually get the action pretty good, and if you don't -- you can sell it to the next guy on eBay.
 
hixmix said:
Nice!

I've got an Ibanez AM70 from the 70's. Like an ES-335 but with a smaller body. Burst finish. Weighs a ton. Beautiful piece of work. I paid like $250 for it ten years ago.
Thats a excellent guitar!When I was a studying lil brat,during only jazz is cool phase I had one :)
 
"matsumoko factory" ?
Which other brands had guitars made in there besides Aria?
 
Marcellovalerio said:
I went browsing on ebay yesterday and i found lots of vintage guitars, and old guitars and they were CHEAP.

Where they made with solid tops?
How is the generall quality?
Any special brands to look out for?

There were also many guitars made by an Italian company called "Eko"...
Heard of them?

www.ebay.co.uk

Eko made Vox guitars for a while, all the offbeat shapes like the Phantom and the Teardrop, they also made some very playable jumbo acoustics, and some absolutely horrible looking things that were covered in in formica a la' 1960's toilet seat, with up to 4 pickups.
One could describe the subtly as shit.
 
I started on an EKO bass... almost made me quit. Not worth any amount of money.
 
I've got an Electra MPC. It's a great guitar. It plays like a dream.
 
ozraves said:
I've got an Electra MPC. It's a great guitar. It plays like a dream.

That's an awesome guitar... definitely a keeper! :)
 
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