Is the C-1 a HYPE?

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I think It would be cool If everyone sent him a private email expressing how important Alans posts have been to this forum and wishing him well.

All you need to do is go to one of his posts and click on the PM button.
 
I'm happy to say I've been too busy working (day job), recording, and mixing to keep up with the latest Alan bashing. If people continue to run off the likes of Alan and Harvey, this BBS will have been dealt a horrible injustice.

Don't be fools... Do you think you are helping anyone here by pissing off the experts to the point of departure?

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-I LOVE my C1-
 
Is Mr Alan really leaving? I can't seem to find any post that say that??

I really hope that's not the case, I think he is one of the great asset that this board has....

As for me, I'm still saving up my pathetic third world currency for a C1... :(
 
Well as I recall, Harvey did leave the first time he started posting here because of a few certain individuals. And it was through many emails asking him to come back that he did and he has now become one of the biggest contributers on this board.

And it's one thing to have an opinion but ramming it down other's throats is a completely different thing. I'm sure Alan (or Stephen) would not have left if those certain people had just said their peace and left it at that, but it's that constant and repetative slamming over and over again that's gonna drive people away.

So I guess you just have to ask yourself if "your" cause is worth the expense of the rest of the board.

-tkr
 
I'll preface my response by saying I like Chessrock a lot. He is bright, funny, and definitely a character with a big heart. He also helps a lot of people on this Board. I wouldn't want to see him leave anymore than I'd want to see Alan or Harvey leave. That said, I do not agree that the self-proclaimed "Spam Police" (you know who you are) are as righteous as they think they are. We all have agendas. We all have opinions. We all occasionally stick our foot in our mouth. And we all need to learn to just shut the fuck up sometimes before we turn a group of generally well-mannered, amiable dudes and gals into an angry, spitting mob.

Here's a message to the self-appointed Spam Police:

We don't need your help. We didn't ask for your help. We don't want your help. Do you comprehend?

This isn't YOUR Board, it's OUR Board. And you are doing more than just standing up for what you believe in. On your fervid march to the anti-spam pulpit you are STOMPING all over the wishes of the 95% of us who welcome people like Alan Hyatt and Stephen Paul. We really haven't elected you to any authoratative position. Nor will we. Stop doing our bidding.

We really don't care why you are doing what you are doing. Really, we don't. We just want you to stop.

The mob says, "Stop!"
 
If i have the choice to sit down for an hour with Harvey, Alan, Stephen or the spam police, I'd gladly choose the former than the latter. I respect experience and knowledge of that depth.

I like many of the posts from the anti-spam contingent, when we aren't discussing spam! I do tire of the witchhunt mentality. I'm old enough to sort out the spam from the facts and to take everything with a grain of salt. Every opinion honestly delivered here has some merit and I listen to all of them.

Yet I tire of the shit and people trying to save me from spam. In extreme cases, its justified. In the case of Alan Hyatt, its not. I think he's been fair.

I was thinking today that there should be a manufacturers forum here, specifically for people like Studio Projects and RNC, etc/ (sorry, can't remember the company name). Then they could answer questions about their products without being gunshy. It would also handle the gripes of the anti-spam contingent.

I come here for only one reason: to share knowledge. All the rest of this hot air is a waste of everybody's time. I'll leave it at that.
 
Is everyone done flaming me yet?

Can we talk mics now?

You know I love you guys. Friends? Kiss kiss?

By the way, Crawdad, that is one of the best suggestions I have heard in a long time. You are indeed the voice of reason around here.
 
Chess,

Personally, from my point of view it's not just you. You just happened to be in the firing line at a time when the tolerance of a lot of people towards the anti-Hyatt posters reach something of a breaking point.

Enough of that for now.........hopefully.

Actually, the idea of a manufacturers forum has merit..........as long as manufacturers or their representatives have TOTAL FREEDOM of speech. If there were comments posted in a negative vein about a particular product, then let someone from that company deal with it.......if they see fit. We can then sit back and judge for ourselves.........something we are already capable of doing without the help of a few people round here.

:cool:
 
I'm with this idea.....and if someone doesnt like it...they dont go there!

We DO need something to break up the tension.

BTW...I also have NOTHING against you Chess....or even Gidge for that matter. I think everyone here is good people. Sure we get the aggression out once in a while but I dont think most KEEP hard feelings. There just needs to be an end to this particular thing because its so recurring.

heylow
 
Chessrock,I hope we cool dude.We definately have different ideas about some things but I don't want to disrespect you or anyone else.I know that you probably didn't mean to have this kind of reaction to your comments.Everyone should have the right to have their opinions heard,bit just as important everyone should have their opinion count.When the actions of a few overrides the opinions and wishes of the many then democracy has failed.I know that you form your views because you care and are passionate about this forum but their are many here that form their opinions for the same reasons and may not have come to the same conclusions that you have reached.Whether you and others who have the same opinions that you have,meant to or not,your actions affected an even larger segment of people whose wishs were over ridden.

I don't want to rehash anything.I think of this forum as one large family and I hope that our brother will find his way back home.Sometimes families can fight and terrible things will be said but hopefully when the dust clears everyones realizes that no matter what was said that the fact remains that you are family and in the end nothing matters more.

Peace to you and everyone else on this forum.It is time to reafirm our family bonds and get back to that which we love.Lets get back to sharing knowledge and the privilege of having a place to discuss recording with people who share our interest.
 
Crawdads Idea is a good one, only flaw is that starting a new forum is something that takes time, and plenty of campaining to dragon.

My propsal is to start a thread here while Alan is still reading posts, and show him he has friends here. And If you owe him an apology give him one. I dont know how many of you may have emailed him but this may be effective.

Wayne
 
Crawdad has it right. I am a beginner in this whole home recording thing. I am a long-time hobbyist in the firearms collection vein and I frequent a firearm site that has discussion forums just like this site (they really look identical actually). Those forums have manufacturer sections and this allows those people that work for Colt or Olympic to address questions or problems that their customers or potential customers have. It is beneficial for all and it really adds to the value of the site. It helps them because they don't have to answer several e-mails about the same thing. They can kill several birds with one stone and people can learn more about their products in the process. The only fly in the ointment is that there are WAY too many instrument manufacturers and electronics manufacturers to account for. It would be a nightmare to set up and support. Maybe have manufacturers sections for everything except instruments and stomp boxes. Cover studio equipment manufacturers and microphones only...(was that redundant? :))
 
I'm sure Alan would flip over the idea of having his own section on the BBS. His products are certainly popular enough, and his cult following strong enough to draw a lot of buzz.

Think of it: We already have a Cool Edit forum. That's a software package produced by a software company called Syntrillium. If the Syntrillium folks wanted to hang out at "their" spot on this forum, I doubt anyone would complain of spam. :) I'm afraid they'd have to be prepared for some flaming, though, by a dude named Chessrock, for making their software so "quarky." :)

What I'm saying is WE'RE ALREADY DOING IT. And I see no problem with having an SP / Joe Meek section hosted and moderated by none other than Mister Hyatt. Who better ? (other than maybe Ted Fletcher, but he doesn't count) :)

If anyone really wants to carry this suggestion out to Dragon, I'll be happy to send an email. If enough of us do it, then maybe we can get something done. Really, I feel awfull about this debacle, but at the same time, I think a compromise like this one would be ideal for everyone.
 
Chess,

Are you saying that you would endorse a forum where manufacturers or their reps could be interpreted as promoting their products in the course of answering questions from us homereccers?

Alternatively, rather than a forum just for SP/Meek, why not an "Open Manufacturers Forum"........open to all, should they choose to participate.



:cool:
 
I am endorsing this idea highly.

I like the idea of being able to have a mic forum free of propoganda - not that propoganda is bad (I am a marketing/advertising guy by trade, ironically enough). Just that if I'm in the mood for it, I can go to the "propoganda section" or I can choose not to hang there. Then if someone "cross-posts" in to the mic forum, it doesn't have to be deleted - just moved.

Personally, I would like to join in on it all myself. I have a lot of business ideas I would like to share and promote.
 
Hell, we appear to be carrying this conversation on in 2 different forums here..........wonder if Dragon would create a forum just for this topic:) :D :)
 
A 'NAMM' forum would be nice, it may even make a few of them put up a banner ad now and then.
 
ausrock said:
Hell, we appear to be carrying this conversation on in 2 different forums here..........wonder if Dragon would create a forum just for this topic:) :D :)
Click to expand...

Then we could start a forum about the forum about the forum, too. :) :) :)
 
i don't think that we need a manufacturers forum. I think people should just lighten up on alan and let him talk about his mics to someone in the market for a mic.

who on this board thinks Studio Projects line of mics are not a good value? Speak now or forever hold your peace

so if someone posts "best mic for under 300 bucks?" and alan says "the c-1 is an excellent mic in this range"....so what, he's telling the truth.

do any of you guys (not counting the self appointed spam patrol) think that alan could ever get away with misleading statements about his mics and the competition? he made a comment about micron thickness one time and harvey called him on it within 2 posts...they disagreed on the topic.

i like having alan taking part in mic discussions, he has a great sense of humor and he knows his shit... plus....i want to know when studio projects is coming out with something new....straight from the horses mouth.

if he is gone (which i wouldn't blame him one bit for leaving), he will be sorely missed.

i've seen people post in every guitar thread that the yamaha pacifica (or whatever the hell the name of the damn thing is) is the end all and be all of cheap guitars...over and over.

yet alan answers a question about his line of mics and he's accused (by the yamaha guy no less) of spaming

the spam patrol are like kids in elemetry school, raising their hands and going " ooh...ohh...ohh"....i saw the spam .....ME!!

makes me wanta puke
 
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