gecko zzed
Grumpy Mod
This is a bit risky!
You are basing your conclusion ("It's funny how sensitive some folks are") with its implication ("including Terry Wetzel") on an assumption ("I'm assuming either someone didn't like his music or disagreed with him about how to do something").
As the assumption is not supported by anything, the conclusion has no value.
In fact, Terry says "To my surprise I only recieved great compliments, both on the recordings and my musical talent!", which means that the first assumption is indeed erroneous.
Terry also says "I've suffered insults, slurs, irrevelent comments and downright putdowns by some folks who probably talk a better game than they could actually perform", which could be a result of some disagreeing with him.
It's okay for people to disagree, but quite often that disagreement takes the form of "I'm right, you're wrong" plus an assortment of derogatory epithets.
Sure, some people are sensitive, and maybe Terry is . . . is that necessarily a bad thing? Is it a requirement of HR that members be thick-skinned and able to withstand the barrage of invective that comes their way.
At my past place of employment, we were encouraged to be resilient, because we shouldn't, and didn't expect the workforce to be social clones; there were (as is the case here) a diverse range of personalities, from accommodating to abrasive . . . and we had to learn to live with them all . . . but what we also learned was that irrespective of our natures, it was uncool to contaminate the workplace.
I sympathize with Terry, because HR has been contaminated by those who have made it their personal playground, have flaunted HR conditions, have protested vigorously at attempts at moderation, yet have squealed like piglets for moderation when their own sensibilities have been offended.
Lt. Bob
Spread the Daf!
well, valid as your points may be, I don't personally agree with them. Yes, there are people here who make a point of being rude most of the time .... but I don't really see that as any different than HR has ever been. When I first arrived here there were, if anything, even nastier feuds and bullshit going on. A lot of the most offensive people from those days have disappeared but there's always new ones.
I used to get mad about rudeness also but it's just tilting at windmills.
If you're gonna come in here, especially the cave, you just have to ignore certain people.
I used to get mad about rudeness also but it's just tilting at windmills.
If you're gonna come in here, especially the cave, you just have to ignore certain people.
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moresound
Loud Sun Studios
I admit I have never been any further northeast than Philadelphia but I would like to; I understand that it's lovely up there, especially in the fall (plus I like maple syrup), but I have been through the Blue Ridge mountains and a small bit of the Appalachian Trail in Maryland and such, and while the Appalachians do have their own attraction, they just don't have the same feel - let alone scale - of the Rockies. If I'm going 3D, I'm going 3D all the way
. But who knows, maybe if/when I take my long overdue trip up that way, I may fall in love with it up there too.
G.
Well just give me a heads up on your New England trip and the red carpet will be brought out.
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moresound
Loud Sun Studios
Let me know when you want your keys back.
Ya I'm gonna need them back eventually. The key to the space ship and the time machine is on that ring.
Monkey Allen
Fork and spoon operator
Keep on truckin Terry and...bit course the rest of it...edit.
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moresound
Loud Sun Studios
Oh don't get me wrong unlike Mass. here in NH as you may know we have very slacked gun control laws.
Come on up and we can go target practicing some time or if your in to hunting.
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MMensch
New member
I think what you may be witnessing (we're some years behind in Slovenia at least, the Web 2.0 is just peaking ATM) is simply the integration, the normalisation of what Web 2.0 had to offer, into the web experience as a whole. New stuff is always exciting, but it's only over time that you can tell whether there's really something to it. Surely the need for interaction (together with common vanity), especially when it's through such a convenient channel as the Internet, is a strong enough a reason to keep something like Facebook running for a very long time, and surely having your own soapbox available to you at all times in the form of a blog is something way too exciting for some people to just disappear. But like you said, over time, people begin to see through the bullshit and some stuff thankfully falls by the wayside.
gecko zzed
Grumpy Mod
I agree: it is just tilting at windmills. I think that's the nature of the net.
I also agree. And, in accord with your thought, I do not get involved with the argy-bargy that goes on (unless expressly asked to look at a particular thread). 'Ignore' is a handy verb.
I do not foresee a change. but I still think it is shame for it to be like this.
SouthSIDE Glen
independentrecording.net
Sure, there's always going to be people who need the occasional soapbox, and even people who have no social life outside of the internet, but many people are discovering that a) running a blog takes *time and work*, and 2) that 99% of the personal blogs or Twit feeds out there are just not worth taking the time to read. Put the two together and you have a rapidly-increasing number of people that feel it's just not worth taking the time to soapbox about the minutia of life if no one is going to read it. As far as Facebook, that - like Twit - is rapidly coming as much a domain for commercial usage as it is for personal networking.
It boils down to one general trend; people want to get the most out of their time on the Internet, and for most social non misfits, Net2.0 is not how to do it. The title of his thread is no coincidence, it's the feeling of many towards the bullshitosphere.
G.
Waltz Mastering
New member
Just joshin. I love NH and have had some great luck fishing for large mouth bass there. Some of the best fresh water spots around.
As far as the net goes. As a teen I could never get enough of Guitar player mag, Mix mag etc.
To me the nets are just an extension of that only in real time... interacting with the pro's and not so pro's from around the world...you just have to have a really good BULLSHIT filter in place.
I'm relatively new to the whole audio forum thing (less than 2 years) and have learned some stuff from a wide variety of people from many countries. As far as the bullshit goes, you just have to chuckle, right?
I'm an audio/music junkie, so if I'm not at the studio actually working, it's still good to be connected in some way...
grimtraveller
If only for a moment.....
Now, can someone tell me how I can close mic a cannon w/o clipping the mic, the pre and the AD
Yeah, send an assisstant.
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moresound
Loud Sun Studios
Next time your heading north to Fish PM me, in fact PM me even if your thinking about it and I'll talk you in to it, people need to relax more.
*Why so serious*
DrewPeterson7
Sage of the Order
Terry - I'm sorry this has been your experience here.
For what it's worth, one of the things with the internet is you need to not just consider the content, but the source of the content, and weight it appropriately. If I read a thread and 10 people comment on it, I'm going to pretty much gloss over or ignore the guys who (rightly or wrongly) I don't think really know what they're doing, and really hone in on the guys who do. For example, I'll certainly give serious thought to anything Greg L says about drum recording, and on the subject of mixing some of the guys like, oh, SouthSIDE Glen I've found that even if I don't necessarily agree with everything they'll have to say, I'll usually learn something valuable from their posts. There's a lot of crap out there, but there's also a lot of real knowledge.
And, I think the most valuable part of this site is actually the MP3 forum, simply because you can immediately tell if someone knows what they're doing from the songs they post, and since we're all geeks at heart if you hear something you like you can almost always get the guy to tell you what he did to make it sound that way. Getting feedback - some expert, some not, but again, weight by the source - on your own work is great, too, and can help you break outside of your comfort zone.
I don't know your music, so don't take this as a critique of your talent or abilty, but let me also add: while it's great that when you put up a page on your music you got some positive feedback, don't read into that any more than you do any of the feedback you got here. At the end of the day, both are just a bunch of random people on the internet talking about your music, and if you choose to ignore one but hone in on the other simply because the later makes you feel good, you're probably limiting yourself. My two cents, anyhow...