grimtraveller
If only for a moment.....
Was it easily audible ?Equally, last week I got a person hold a 58 pointing vertically up, and she talked into the side for every announcement she made.
Was it easily audible ?Equally, last week I got a person hold a 58 pointing vertically up, and she talked into the side for every announcement she made.
I still have my first sm57 bought in 1973 ( back when I decided to take a stab at that "rock star" thing ) and a few later ones from the 80's / 90's. I can't tell any difference, they all do the job just fine.I went into the rabbit hole on the Old vs New and finally drank the koolaid to buy a "old shure" 58ish and will compare...
but my gut instinct is telling me most the tone change is years of spittle and age as the design hasnt really changed much.
I kind of had a dream gig back then as I got paid to buy and set up equipment. I didn't quite yet trust the DA78's as there were plenty of stories about drop out and clogging heads so we had the DA38's as back up. Also wasn't a fan of the AD converters in the Tascam's so there are the Apogee AD8000 racked up. It was a lot of gear for a folk group. My favorite rig became the Genex MO recorders as you could connect hard drives directly then import the track directly from the drives right into Pro Tools. These had really clean AD converters and paired with the Milennia HV preamps made this system portable and versatile. Wish I was still spending someone else's money on gear.some of these posts are hilarious.....and Folkcafe! nice system in the picture...
I really like the SM58.. and the SM7 with some EQ. I hear a little more richness in those.TAE thats wild you still have that.
for the OP, heres a small audio clip for dry- plain comparison spoken/ballad vocal into a mic....into interface into Reaper.
MXL V67, WARM tube47, SM7 flat setting, SM545 new, SM58 new .....interesting
Wow that was some serious investments on some cutting edge stuff back in the day! Crazy!I kind of had a dream gig back then as I got paid to buy and set up equipment. I didn't quite yet trust the DA78's as there were plenty of stories about drop out and clogging heads so we had the DA38's as back up. Also wasn't a fan of the AD converters in the Tascam's so there are the Apogee AD8000 racked up. It was a lot of gear for a folk group. My favorite rig became the Genex MO recorders as you could connect hard drives directly then import the track directly from the drives right into Pro Tools. These had really clean AD converters and paired with the Milennia HV preamps made this system portable and versatile. Wish I was still spending someone else's money on gear.
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Dr. Bose was heavily classical and jazz oriented so a lot of our early live recordings were classical. The cost of producing a classical album, that was not just a live performance already scheduled is very high. Pre-production costs include the arrangements, practice space, the performance space and then a lot of musicians by the hour. By the time you hit record it is a ton of money. Especially when you consider a lot of what we were doing was experimental surround recordings. Sometimes the performances lacked and some of the early surround attempts didn't translate well into 5.1. I will also add that some of the greatest performance spaces in the world do not sound as good empty.Wow that was some serious investments on some cutting edge stuff back in the day! Crazy!
I know you had a lot of answers already, but I'm just going to throw some advice here. The Rode NTA2a is a really good balanced mic. I just got one used. I really love it. Sorry if someone already recommended this one before!I will list my equipment and then my goals:
Equipment:
- Windows 10 computer i3 with 8 GB RAM
- Reaper (latest version) DAW
- Focusrite 4i4 Audio Interface Gen 3
Goals:
- Vocal mic that could be used for micing a guitar amp speaker (although I plan to go direct with guitars most of the time)
- (More interested in the vocal capabilities at this time)
- Not USB, I would prefer to plug directly into the Focusrite with an XLR connector
- Durable and time-tested etc.
As I mentioned above, I would like a good vocal mic. I have thought about a Shure SM57 but am willing to pay up to around $300 USD or thereabout for a good starter mic, Does anyone have any ideas considering these goals and equipment?
I tend to be a rather strong vocalist, but I can back off if I need to. A front large diapragm mic maybe, or can I get a lot out of an SM 57? My style of music is anywhere from pop to heavy metal and most everything in between.
Thanks for any replies!
I remember mixing a show for a jazz band, and before the hall was full, I asked the bassist to turn up the low end a little. Mistake. Once a bunch of human bodies came in, it was a little too much, which was corrected later but still.I will also add that some of the greatest performance spaces in the world do not sound as good empty.
nice thank yousome of these posts are hilarious.....and Folkcafe! nice system in the picture...
I dont try to kick dead horses..lol but I went into the rabbit hole on the Old vs New and finally drank the koolaid to buy a "old shure" 58ish and will compare...
but my gut instinct is telling me most the tone change is years of spittle and age as the design hasnt really changed much.
for a hobbyist....I still love the SM7b for the very fact it has like training wheels on it with the metal cage to "set the distance", where my 58 can be too close or too far away....
same with almost all mics but the SM7b and to some extent the RE20 ...sports room mics.
putting in some effort though most mics can do a good enough job, slap on some polish later, and most mics work.
This. I will never understand the obsession with the SM7. You’re paying a lot more for a sliiiightly different 57 in which I see no real benefits.The basketless 57 is a cousin of the SM-7B, but way apart in price.
I know you had a lot of answers already, but I'm just going to throw some advice here. The Rode NTA2a is a really good balanced mic. I just got one used. I really love it. Sorry if someone already recommended this one before!