mshilarious
Banned
apl said:
Uh, the Paul is only worth about $500
Uh, the Paul is only worth about $500
apl
Stand Up Comity
mshilarious said:Uh, the Paul is only worth about $500
Even more reason to upgrade.
chrisharris
King of Bling
David M said:I read the first two or three sentences. Thought it looked like a total BS post. I glanced down the page to confirm that it was a total BS post. And then I skipped down to see how others responded such a total BS post.
Normally, I'd agree with you...but since I wrote it, I gotta' say that you're totally wrong . . . and an asshat.
zacanger
musician and audodidact
chrisharris said:
Yeah, except, thing is, he's not wrong. As in, not at all. Since it is a BS post fully of BS whatsits about a just plain S guitar. What is it with people and Line 6 crap anyway? Unless you're buying they FX modelling pedals (plain pedals, not POD stuff), it sucks. That includes the guitars. I've owned a lot of Line 6 and played more, and it all sucks. BTW, asshat? I haven't heard that one since I was in Budapest!
apl
Stand Up Comity
zacanger said:
You're 17? Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
zacanger
musician and audodidact
apl said:
You're 45? Bwhahahahahaha! You're old. Anyway. Note the ancient SNL reference in your sig. What's amusing about being 17, anyway? If one has been playing for 11 years and recording for four, it's not as many as you I'm sure (holy rhyme, Batman!), but it's enough to know that Line 6 modeling is shit.
mshilarious
Banned
zacanger said:
It has something to do with all of the top 8 or 9 threads on this board with you as the last poster. It also has something to do with checking out chrisharris' betteroffdad recordings, and then listening to those on your myspace page.
SHEPPARDB.
Well-known member
Chris,I also rule.My opinion of the line 6 stuff is that it sux.No way would
I spend 1200 on that guitar.Dont even get me started on line 6 amps and
modelers.They should come with a quarter taped to them,then they would
at least have some value.
I spend 1200 on that guitar.Dont even get me started on line 6 amps and
modelers.They should come with a quarter taped to them,then they would
at least have some value.
zacanger
musician and audodidact
mshilarious said:
::Shrug:: I took a day off to catch up on everything online. So yeah, I posted on a lot of different threads, putting in my $0.02. My myspace? What does that have to do with anything? The songs might not be mixed amazingly or whatever, but I know guitar tone. Long before I got into recording I was a tone freak. I gave up because too many people thought Variax guitars were worth playing.
E
Ed Dixon
New member
Two comments about this thread:
First it contains some useful info about Variax acoustic models. I have an assortment if Line 6 gear, but have not yet played a Variax acoustic model. It sounds as it those models are just as impressive as their electric models (I have a 500).
Second it contains an amazing level of BS by an assortment of parties. Most of this part is useless.
Line 6 makes some very good gear. It’s not for everybody (what gear is), but works well for many. That set of “many” includes everything from novices to pros.
Ed
First it contains some useful info about Variax acoustic models. I have an assortment if Line 6 gear, but have not yet played a Variax acoustic model. It sounds as it those models are just as impressive as their electric models (I have a 500).
Second it contains an amazing level of BS by an assortment of parties. Most of this part is useless.
Line 6 makes some very good gear. It’s not for everybody (what gear is), but works well for many. That set of “many” includes everything from novices to pros.
Ed
mshilarious
Banned
zacanger said:
Well, you are advertising yourself as a studio in your sig, and you make a LOT of expert statements on this board, and I don't feel your work merits that. It ain't just the mixing, it's the tracking.
It would be like me saying a Neumann TLM103 sucked.
zacanger
musician and audodidact
mshilarious said:
Well, for what its worth, I'm actually really proud of the one acoustic song on myspace.com/lovepuppetstudios. The stuff on myspace.com/zacanger is just quick demos to get the songs up, don't take those seriously. A broader range of stuff I've done is up at theleftproject.com. Still not amazing, but I'm working with the extremely limited equipment I can afford.
mshilarious
Banned
Believe me I know about budgets. apl was kidding me earlier about not flipping for a git that goes for $2K nowadays, but he can't swing it either. My bread and butter is cheap people, bless 'em. That's why you don't hear me making no comments about Neumanns, I can't afford 'em.
Gidge
Lapdance Test Dummy
mshilarious said:
sometimes its not even about budget....ever seen a gig where a guy is palying a frickin' Martin nice ass guitar but its coming thru the PA sounding like ass?......
zacanger
musician and audodidact
Gidge said:
Ach. I shouldn't even say anything about that example. Because I hate arguing with people about acoustic guitar amplification. But I can say, if the Martin was an acoustic-electric, it's because of the effing piezo, dernit.
mshilarious
Banned
zacanger said:
Piezos have a bad name, but that's generally because of the crap preamps stuck into the guitar, or the shoddy placement of the element under a crap saddle. A probably done piezo system can sound quite good.
zacanger
musician and audodidact
mshilarious said:
M... I disagree with you there. I've never heard a guitar using only a piezo pickup. A system that also uses an internal mic and/or a magnetic pickup, maybe. My ideal acoustic tone is that of Michael Hedges.
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Ed Dixon
New member
A good guitar player can sound good playing through just about anything. While gear matters, it's more driven by the fingers of the player.
Novices and OK players tend to benefit more from gear differences.
Ed
Novices and OK players tend to benefit more from gear differences.
Ed
zacanger
musician and audodidact
Ed Dixon said:
Oooh, tricky, sly, sneaking in a subtle insult. Good work. I strongly disagree with you, though. Great guitarists might say that tone is all in the fingers, but you'll note that most of them are playing great guitars through great amps, usually with very little in the way of digital modeling. Being a complete tone freak, the actual sound of the guitar matters just as much to me as the skill of the player. Indecent sound can mask good playing anyway. Besides which, if you take a player who uses all digital stuff and make them use a normal guitar with a tube amp, they'll be confused by it. Of course, if you take someone who uses a nice guitar and a tube amp and make them use a Line 6 system, they'll be just as confused, because they're not used to having all these features with a thin tone. Players develop using certain kinds of gear, and play to that gear, I've found. Tube amps V. transistor amps V. stuff with a ton of digital FX make you play differently.
apl
Stand Up Comity
Hey, zacanger, when you get a little older, you'll learn valuable lessons.
For example, it might be smarter to buy something that gets you to 95% of a heap of great gear for about 0.5% of the cost of that heap of gear. And that for some people it's better to have an incredibly wide body of usable tones available than a handful of excellent tones.
And here's the big one, silly child. 99.5% of your audience couldn't tell the difference between an RP-50 and a JCM-2000, so the only one who cares all that much about your tone is your own ego.
For example, it might be smarter to buy something that gets you to 95% of a heap of great gear for about 0.5% of the cost of that heap of gear. And that for some people it's better to have an incredibly wide body of usable tones available than a handful of excellent tones.
And here's the big one, silly child. 99.5% of your audience couldn't tell the difference between an RP-50 and a JCM-2000, so the only one who cares all that much about your tone is your own ego.