I hate micing amps (Continued). I bought a vamp and here is my sample!

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Hoyton said:
use your pinky ;)

Something I have a problem with.

TravisinFlorida said:
and paint it pink. it's prettier than black. :D

I'm out of pink right now, so the options are: black, black with glitter, purple with glitter, green, and white.
 
I personally LOVE my V-Amp Pro. I can record at 3:00 in the morning and not wake anyone up. I love the sound/tons I get and I think it was the best purchace I have ever made.

Below are 4 clips I recorded with my V-Amp Pro. They are just rhythm guitar riffs for some Death Metal I am in the process of writing but I think they sound pretty good. I tweaked the first 2 a bit different. Let me know what you think.

http://www.lightningmp3.com/live/file.php?fid=5318

http://www.lightningmp3.com/live/file.php?fid=5319

http://www.lightningmp3.com/live/file.php?fid=5320

http://www.lightningmp3.com/live/file.php?fid=5322


Peter
 
superspit said:
Yes...I've got the pro V-amp.
My '83 Marshall has hated me ever since.
I made the decision to go 'pro' after owning the x-vamp pedal version for 2 months. I loved that thing too!! Look, I am a home-studio player....I don't do gigs anymore cause I'm an old fart and eventually got pretty sick of it. So the rack is perfect for me....midi control aswell!!....perfect!

Is it worth the extra cash?....if you have the cash then yes, if not, the vamp 2 (the one that looks like a 'sucked jube' will do almost exactly the same sort of stuff.....just not as easily.(in a controllability sense). If cash really is the root issue....X-Vamp is also just phenominal for direct to desk recording!! (as long as you have one of the 9 global parameters of LIVE or STUDIO correctly set!)....I wonder if this is one of the main reasons why so many people hate their virtual unit's sound......an incorrectly set-up unit?)

ALL Virtual units really have come along way since I started home-recording 20 years ago....give them a shot, and if you don't like it, sell it on e-bay and go back to micing......simple.
Remember, they are an ALTERNATIVE device, when used in the recording environment,.....u may decide that your Lead solo's sound great going thru a box, and the rest of the gits sound great thru your mic'ed amp!!

Anyways.....with any of these 'boxes', they're all good in their own way!

Regards,
Superspit.


I could not agree with you more!!! I have the V-Amp Pro and love it to death!!! With the Midi control it makes it so easy to control and the options are endless. Best thing I have ever bought!!!


Peter
 
Ford Van said:
zacanger needs to learn timing!

Ford Van needs to learn that commenting on my guitar playing won't provoke me because I know I'm not a great guitarist.
 
Bloodsoaked said:
I personally LOVE my V-Amp Pro. I can record at 3:00 in the morning and not wake anyone up. I love the sound/tons I get and I think it was the best purchace I have ever made.

Below are 4 clips I recorded with my V-Amp Pro. They are just rhythm guitar riffs for some Death Metal I am in the process of writing but I think they sound pretty good. I tweaked the first 2 a bit different. Let me know what you think.

http://www.lightningmp3.com/live/file.php?fid=5318

http://www.lightningmp3.com/live/file.php?fid=5319

http://www.lightningmp3.com/live/file.php?fid=5320

http://www.lightningmp3.com/live/file.php?fid=5322


Peter
I think these tones are pretty freaking cool, no matter what you used to get them. And good playing man...
 
Dogman said:
I think these tones are pretty freaking cool, no matter what you used to get them. And good playing man...

Thanks allot man, at least someone besides me does...LOL


Peter
 
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superspit said:
Unfortunately, this amp tended to 'really sound great' only when driven (very) hard. But I just can't do that regularly anymore, and this upsets me considerably.

You can still drive the amp that hard and get control over the volume. I would suggest using an attenuator like a THD Hotplate or Marshall powerbrake. Palmer makes really nice products too that EVH used like the speaker simulator, etc.... Or look into getting a Demeter isolation cab. Don't settle!:)
 
Bloodsoaked said:
Thanks allot man, at least someone besides me does...LOL


Peter


I want to hear them with the rest of the song. That is the true test, and usually the problem.
 
I know...old thread,pretty new guy.I read alot of the posts with genuine interest and was struck how easily people get their opinions and egos entangled.Modelers and amps sound different,but both have a place if used tastefully.I'm old school (well,50!) and I love the sound of a vintage tube amp cranked.I've owned many vintage pieces over the years,and have whittled it down to 4 old tweeds...'59 Bassman,'56 Pro,'56 Deluxe,and '59 Tremolux.However,in a home setting,especially when the wife is sleeping in the next room,I use a modeler,a J-Station.I also have a second one on a tray in my rack for gigs that don't use a backline.While I would like to have a tweed hopping off of a chair behind me, I think the J-Station does a credible job.I've never had a digital modeler of any kind that was plug & play,all the presets had to be tweaked.
The following jams are just for fun,but they are all J-Station.Guitars range from '50s Conversion Les Paul to teles and strats old and new. :cool:

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/songInfo.cfm?bandID=330460&songID=3120095

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/songInfo.cfm?bandID=330460&songID=3789568

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/songInfo.cfm?bandID=330460&songID=4414879

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/songInfo.cfm?bandID=330460&songID=3120108

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/songInfo.cfm?bandID=330460&songID=2429829

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/songInfo.cfm?bandID=330460&songID=2429821

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/songInfo.cfm?bandID=330460&songID=3541923
 
For the price of a good modeller like Guitar Rig, you might as well buy a decent amp and a mic - at least that way you can still play live.
 
LIMiT said:
Not quite... a virtual amp is a more sterile, front end type sound. There is no doubt you can get close to the same tones, but the 'power' will not be there. If you've recorded live drums, and start cranking up your mix, your virtual amp signal will get lost and sound 'weak' in comparison.
When micing a speaker, the spl hitting the mic is actually 'felt' (when played back loud) through your monitors, pushing the cone.

A combination of both yeilds great results, especially for rock/metal music.
Your miced signal will give you the 'meat' and 'fullness' ('power') if you will, and the virtual amp will bring out the clarity of what you're playing.

That being said...something I've experimented with great results for a 'lead track' is bringing my NS10's (which I no longer mix on) into our 'big room', and re-amping through a PODXT, dialing in exactly what I want to hear, and throwing an SM57 or an e609 and capturing that sound.

The result is a less 'sterile', more 'natural', but still 'present and focused' lead track that cuts through any big chugging Mesa tone.

Apologies for all the 'tonal lingo'..but it's difficult to communicate this stuff on message boards.

Hope this helps,

-LIMiT

mmmmm.......not quite?.....very subjective the word 'sterile' when talking audio. I am presently working on a very 'heavy' piece of music at the moment, the heaviest sounding guitars I've ever played, all thru the V-amp. I can't wait to see wot you guys think when I've finished it. It certainly isn't sounding "front-endish" or sterile!! (in my experience!)
Will get back to you (ya'all) with that particular toon.
Kindest regards,
SuperSpit.
 
This thread's going on a month. And this is just the continuation of another thread. Wowzers.
 
zacanger said:
This thread's going on a month. And this is just the continuation of another thread. Wowzers.

Hi Z,
I guess that stating the obvious may give you some cool rep....or you are just bored,..... like me?
Regards,
SuperSpit (Wowzer) :)
 
superspit said:
'It certainly isn't sounding "front-endish" or sterile!! (in my experience!)'

...compared to a miced amp?

A miced amp pushes air...the louder the amp,..the more 'constant push' (natural compression) is being 'pushed' into the mic.
Because most loud guitar trax are close miced, the proximity effect eliminates most of the high end, an LDC a couple of feet away (still receiving this 'pushed air' signal) will add back that 'air' or 'high end'.
This same signal, when played back will 'push' your monitors cones the same way it 'pushed' the mic, and you can actually 'feel', and see it. (usually at higher monitoring levels).

I 'moded amp/cabinet' compared to a miced guitar cab, will be more 'up-front', with definately less low end power.

Some modelers (Pod XT) do a very good job at coming close to a miced amp signal, I do not question that, but the difference is there.

A mod, is a mod...

This, of coarse, is my point of view, yours may differ.

Cheers,

-LIMiT
 
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