I am sick of 44khz vs 96 khz argument from amatuers!

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A Reel Person said:
I thought mine was pretty succinct!
I don't know how to reply to that without sounding like I'm kissing your ass! :eek: :D
 
actually, I think you can attract more flies with a big steaming pile of shit than you can with honey...so rado's on the right path..assuming the goal here was to be covered in flies... :D
 
Rado said:
If you were a pro You'd know that since 2003 nobody will accept anything under 96kHz in the business!!!

OMG this is awful. That would mean that the business will never make another CD. But if you say so, it MUST be the truth.
 
I think I've just found the perfect reason NOT to use 96kHz. Using my 96kHz sound card and test software. I ran a frequency sweep from 20Hz to 30kHz. I didn't have the levels up very hot at the start, but I was able to perceive 25Hz and hear 26 Hz. Pretty normal so far.

What's more problematic is... let's put it this way... 25-26kHz... well, it puts the hurts in Hertz, if you know what I mean. While I could just barely hear it (at fairly significant levels), I now have a headache that I didn't have before.

Put another way, for those of us freaks who actually can hear (and are uncomfortable when a TV set a couple rooms away loses sync, are annoyed by the squeal of high frequency electronic dimmers, and so on), that's a really good reason for SACD to die as quickly as possible. :D

I just pity the dogs.
 
dgatwood said:
that's a really good reason for SACD to die as quickly as possible. :D

but SACD has so many other benefits. larger capacity than CDs, stereo OR 5.1 OR both, copy prevention, etc.
:cool:
 
bennychico11 said:
but SACD has so many other benefits. larger capacity than CDs, stereo OR 5.1 OR both, copy prevention, etc.
:cool:

As long as you can get a sound out of the disc, you can capture it with another device. If it's got an unbreakable code, just use a good-old cable between the players outputs and a recorders input. No ordinary man will ever hear the extra generation D/A-A/D. In fact, the avarage consumer can't hear difference between a good mp3 and a CD.

While not an exact digital copy, it would then be ready to get shared over the internet by the kids.
 
Stefan Elmblad said:
As long as you can get a sound out of the disc, you can capture it with another device. If it's got an unbreakable code, just use a good-old cable between the players outputs and a recorders input. No ordinary man will ever hear the extra generation D/A-A/D. In fact, the avarage consumer can't hear difference between a good mp3 and a CD.

While not an exact digital copy, it would then be ready to get shared over the internet by the kids.

ah, but if it's in 5.1, you can't!
of course, you could do it that way and make a DVD copy...but after all that waste of time of playing out each individual channel, arranging it on the DVD, and finally burning it...you might as well just saved yourself the time and gone and bought another copy of the SACD. but then again, how you gonna share a 5.1 on the internet?
 
dgatwood said:
What's more problematic is... let's put it this way... 25-26kHz... well, it puts the hurts in Hertz, if you know what I mean. While I could just barely hear it (at fairly significant levels), I now have a headache that I didn't have before.
Are you saying the frequency gave you the headache?
 
dgatwood said:
I think I've just found the perfect reason NOT to use 96kHz. Using my 96kHz sound card and test software. I ran a frequency sweep from 20Hz to 30kHz. I didn't have the levels up very hot at the start, but I was able to perceive 25Hz and hear 26 Hz. Pretty normal so far.

What's more problematic is... let's put it this way... 25-26kHz... well, it puts the hurts in Hertz, if you know what I mean. While I could just barely hear it (at fairly significant levels), I now have a headache that I didn't have before.

I think saw this posted somewhere, but you have to make sure what you are hearing really is ultrasonic frequencies rather than distortions of ultrasonic frequencies caused by something in your chain. In particular I'd be interested in the performance of the anti-imaging filter: is it designed to let those frequencies pass?
 
blarb

Hey Rado or whatever your name is.

I respect that you have a pro viewpoint on certain things and good for you.

But I read earlier in this thread you talking about spending the rest of your life playing at a corner Pub as though you where some sorta music god and being above the rest.

Well Fuck you to hell.

Many of the people on this sight do perform in Pubs and Bistro's and Weddings and whatever for a living to pay the bills.

We even use Sm58 mics and behringer mixers, and sometimes record our backings in dreadfull 44hz that seems below your standards and actually use minidisk which are at a lower rate.
My point is we all play a part in the industry weather it being the teenager dreaming of fame and starting with a tascam 4 track or you Pro's with the big bucks who can efford all the technology.
I remember Whitetowns hit was done on analog 8 track but the thing is technology will never outshine real talent wheather you have a shit mic or not or even recorder.
Do not bag the hard working musicians working late carrying heavy gear and making a buck.
I am glad you have your cushy little studio and heater or Air conditioner and 96 hz equipment, but don't bag over 50% of muso's doing the real work live or doing live recording in these stingy corner Pubs and Don't bag these true Muso's using classic 8 bit synths and samplers and valve amps, or god forbidden using Leem mics because at the end of the day we support our familys and love what we do.

And frankly Don't need 96hz to sound good because we really actually are fucking good.
I know vocalists that could sing through a dunny roll and record them to tape and they would sound fantastic.
Realistically most of us won't ever do movie soundtracks and frankly these days I sell my Cd's at my gigs and markets and Festivals and make a nice amount Per Performance and have done well using just my Pc and recording at whatever I can.
People buy it not because of what rate it is recorded at but because the music stands out and entertains the ear and emotion.

Not all of us will be at your level and these days you don't need a big label behind you to make make a good living out of music.

So enjoy your 96hz and big names you work for WOOHOO ( NOT ) As the standard of music these days is fucked and Mimmed, and over processed.

Wheather it be in 96hz, 44, 48, Whatever, If it sounds good I will buy it.

Regards Raver

A hard working muso Using a Fd8, Audigy 2, Sm58, Yamaha Mixer, Behringer B1 Mic, Interm P.a.

Pretty cheap hey But I get the work purely on the talent of my vocalist and my songwriting and arranging.

Not at what it is recorded at.

Give me Stingy Pubs above a recording Studio any day.

And having a live crowd rocks .
 
My only point of correction is that we have absolutely no reason at all to believe that 'rado' is anything professional other than a professional troll. :)
 
Fuck the whole argument. It doesn't matter if you are recording in 96k, 44.1, or 22.0, if you don't know your ass from a hole in the ground about the equipment you are using, you are going to produce crap.

I've seen a brilliant recording done on a boom box with a radio shack mic taped to an acoustic guitar. It was recorded to cassette tape.

All this is for nothing and I don't think the troll who started this bullshit argument is coming back. If he did, it was probably just to laugh at all of us for trying to argue with a brick wall....
 
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