I am a fan of Line 6

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Vox tonelab vs. Pod pro, v-amp pro.

ok i know their is a similar post about this but its kinnda old i bleive so thought i would bring the topic back alive with a new thread...i just bought a Vox tonelab on ebay today..how does this compare to the Pod Pro and V-amp pro? and i seen a review on musiciansfriend.com that some guy tweaked it out to sound like a Mesa sound out of it? has anyone came pretty damn close to that Mesa sound?
 
I don't know about the Mesa, but I've heard some excellent sounds coming from the Tonelab. Good luck, ds!
 
Well I listened to the track before reading any of the comments.

I honestly don't like it. Yes the recording is clean. Yes it would be a good representation to demo a song and give to bandmates to take home and learn. But it doesn't "Sound" good to me at all. The clean sounds very DI'd almost like a keyboard would sound trying to sound like a guitar. The distorted guitar sounds shallow. I may sound ok if its mized with a full song but with only guitars and the drums you hear it too much.

Again though, for bustin' out a quick demo to give friends its a great clean recording.
 
All I can say is that I can lay out a demo for the band to follow within an hour, with no switching guitars, even changing tunings (this whole track the guitar phsysically was tunned to E, and using the workbench software, I droped it 1/2 step 1 button click!). I have acoustics, distortions, and tons of effects at the touch of a button, 0 noise even from a computer monitor, bad ground, you name it, hum is a thing of past. I don't have to get overlly concerned with levels because there is not any noise on the tracks from guitar. I basically can arm a track, and go.

I will be the first to admit that analog is better, but I could not lay out ideas this quick before using just headphones and a laptop, 11:00 P.M. with a house full of sleeping kids.

The more I use it the bigger fan I am. I haven't even mentioned the fact that the guitarport software is a great resource for beginer guitar players like myself.
 
I use my 4 channel tube amp for all my major parts, but when there's a strange part or a wildly different tone i need, i use my line 6, and no one notices.

They are also great for practicing or whipping together a quick demo silently in the middle of the night.

But, They sound terrible at high volumes, and I feel awkward using them live.
 
Line 6 stuff is generally very good...just expensive.
Don't consider it junk just because a few people on here say it is.
 
fretwire3d said:
They are also great for practicing or whipping together a quick demo silently in the middle of the night...
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BAM!! It seems we're all coming together on this.
 
Rather than post in the Guitar And Bass Forum about about how much you love some of the various modelers out there, I'd love to see those using them simply post their samples in the MP3 Forum and get people's opinions first. Then after hearing what people have to say about it and ask what you used to get those tones THEN tell them. Whether the initial comments are good, bad, or mixed, at least you'd get honest opinions about how it sounds. Stating up front "I used a POD!!!!!" is a guaranteed way to get some people to knock your results.

For the record (pun intended :rolleyes: ), I though the results boomtap got were pretty good. I've heard a lot worse in the MP3 Forum done with better gear. And keep in mind this was done presets rather than tweaked presets. I'd bet by editing the presets and creating custom patches you'd get even better results.

Remember, the results are what it's all about, not the tools you used to get them.

EDIT - OK, OK, at VSpaceBoy's request, here's a link to the properly named Homerecording.com MP3 Mixing Clinic Forum.
 
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DaveO said:
Rather than post in the Guitar And Bass Forum about about how much you love some of the various modelers out there, I'd love to see those using them simply post their samples in the MP3 Forum and get people's opinions first..
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Actually its the MP3 MIXING forum. Linking to an MP3 for what your stating would be more appropriate here. (Not to split hairs :))
 
apl said:
Whatcha got, fretwire3d?
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Its a pretty rare kinda botique amp from the early nineties I think. It's called a kitty hawk M1. Best amp i've ever heard. 1x12 60watts (el34 or 6l6) The clean sounds like a fender, then one drive sounds like a early mesa boogie, the other sounds like a JCM900, or you can put the mesa boogie and the jcm900 channels for a unique tone. All accesed by a footswitch.

yep, it rules.
 
All I had were 58's for the drums too, so they sound bad. Escpecially the Kick.
 
I'm a big fan of Line 6 (had a Pod since they were released and think they're probably the most significant innovation in home recording in recent years, got an MM4 pedal, just bought a Variax), and I've never had a bad word to say about them...

...until...

...I played a gig a couple weeks ago with my usual pedalboard and guitars but used the Axsys 212 that the other band's guitarist was using (too lazy to carry my Blues Deville around).

Evil.

Nasty horrid badness. Sucked all the tone from everything. Aargh. And yes - I did take the time to set it up with the old "tweed blues" or whatnot setting.

Won't be that lazy again. Still love my Pod though.
 
Quick demo, secondary tracks, middle of the night, Yes modelers can be great for this but when you need responsivenes or you need to "feel" your amp as a natural extension of your guitar they just don't cut it for me. They can sound great but they "feel" awful.
 
Anyone that plays thru a Mesa can tell you for a fact....
NO MODELER SOUNDS EVEN CLOSE TO A RECTIFIER OR ANY OTHER MESA!!! It is a fact. Not saying there aren't some usefull sounds on some of them, but NONE of them even come close to a real Mesa dual Rectifier thru a Mesa 4x12, or ANY other Mesa for that matter.

Also, I would recommend checking out the Behringer V-amp pro before buying the much more expensive Line6. Sounds every bit as good as the Podxt Pro, and can be found for around $150 new.
 
Toker41 said:
Also, I would recommend checking out the Behringer V-amp pro before buying the much more expensive Line6. Sounds every bit as good as the Podxt Pro, and can be found for around $150 new.
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If you're using a modeller, you are really settling for "good enough". There's nothing wrong with that in many situations. I agree, though, that if "good enough" is good enough, then you may as well get something cheap. POD vs. V-Amp vs. J-Station, etc., is really just splitting hairs between units that are, by design, just intended to get you in the ballpark. I can't imagine getting a POD xtPro, or whatever the top-end Line 6 is now, when a used J-Station would do just as well for much, much less cash.
 
Toki987 said:
One of my guitar players uses a line6. It's loud and punchy as hell and don`t sound that bad, with a Fender tube setting. I just keep looking out the corner of my eye while we are picking and watching for smoke, sparks, and stink after hearing the horror stories about them..
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welp, last Friday night we were doing a lengthy uptempo shuffle jam and the guitar player on the L6 suddenly disappeared in the mix. I looked over at his turf and he was leaning over his amp with his hand on the top. He snatched it off and looked at me and shook his head. We finished up that set without that guitar player. After a 20 minute break the amp was working again. Anybody have that experience?
 
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