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flamin-gitaur
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Zallon021 said:
Read the third post in this thread!!!!
Read the third post in this thread!!!!
cephus
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Zallon021 said:
What he uses in concert in 2006 (or whenever) is not the same guitar he recorded it with. Another brick in the wall is headphone music and you can totally tell it's not a strat. Strat's don't sound that fat when they are that clean. The solo in another brick in the wall is a really clean jazzy tone, like a george benson-ish thing. Not a saturated singing solo like comfortably numb or hey you.
That said, you can maybe mimick the sound with a strat, but you use the rhythm pickup, not the bridge pickup.
A single coil bridge pickup on a strat is pretty limited, though. I'd put a really sweet gibsoney PAF or similar for a range of useable tones. I also used to like a duncan quarter-pounder, which is higher output, more midrange and just as noisey as the stock bridge pickup. My '62 strat has had one in there for like 15 years and I really like it. On my main guitar, I have a jaguar bridge pickup, which gets a surfey sound which I also like.
cephus
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From http://www.davidgilmour.com/faq.php :
Is the 1959 Les Paul that David’s been using on the album the same from The Wall recording sessions and tour?
- No. ‘The Wall’ Les Paul on which he played, amongst other things, the solo in ‘Another Brick In The Wall (Part Two)’ was an all gold ’55 - not a ’59, which he still has and uses. He has been using a ’56 Les Paul Gold Top with a Bigsby tremolo on it for this project as well - very similar, but with the addition of a tremolo arm.
Is the 1959 Les Paul that David’s been using on the album the same from The Wall recording sessions and tour?
- No. ‘The Wall’ Les Paul on which he played, amongst other things, the solo in ‘Another Brick In The Wall (Part Two)’ was an all gold ’55 - not a ’59, which he still has and uses. He has been using a ’56 Les Paul Gold Top with a Bigsby tremolo on it for this project as well - very similar, but with the addition of a tremolo arm.
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khudsonjr
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If you ever used the Cornish effects that Gilmour uses (ie Soft Sustain & P2, etc) plus a neck PU, you will be quite suprised how '"fat" a strat can sound.
Dr ZEE
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very good point! 
Another words, even if you get the complete David's set-up, to get his tone you actually gotta play in his style and I may add you'd have to really pay attention to the details when playing or structuring you solos/riffs/licks.
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few short freebees clips HERE ...
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... also picking timing in combination with bending timing/speed. Even though I would not necessarily highlight it as No.1 factor, but it is THE major one.guttapercha said:
Another words, even if you get the complete David's set-up, to get his tone you actually gotta play in his style and I may add you'd have to really pay attention to the details when playing or structuring you solos/riffs/licks.
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few short freebees clips HERE ...
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cephus
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khudsonjr said:
No doubt it'll sound fat, but it won't be indistiguishable from a les paul. Give a listen to that solo again from the album. it sounds like a guitar that weighs 15 pounds, you know? I used to try and get my stratty guitars to sound like anything. they do have a wide range of tonal colors, but there is a certain something that electronics can't provide. You can easily get the comfortably numb singing thing happening with any strat really. But that clean compressed fatness (google said from various sources that the solo was played on the les paul direct into the board - no guitar amp) won't be had from a bolt-on neck guitar with a plastic pickguard and that much routing.
I don't know why I'm arguing about this. I play a strat. I just really like that cool sound of that solo and don't think that EMGs or whatever dave gilmour's current live setup is could touch it. It's a gibson-only sound and us fender guys just have to bow down to that one. I know it's a bummer. He has alot of other fender sounds that you can get prety easy though, especially with hand-wired $800 fuzztones.
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Zallon021
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I play like him and I get the sounds but my pickups wont pick up all of the long bends how can I get that sound to last I have tried everything!!!!! 
I am getting fustrated and does anybody have a link or video to the song "brothers in arms" by dire straits?
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Zallon021
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I know what you're saying but I mean I know David Gilmour used a Strat for the Another Brick In The Wall Solo once because I saw it and I like the Strat sound better than the gibson sound because gibson is ONE sound mon uni and the fender strat can mimick it almost just as good but then switch off it just as quick!
Dr ZEE
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well, since you've tried everything and you already do play like DG and you still can't get what you want - maybe it's time to give it up and try something else in your life???. Nobody is going to give you 100%-plug-&-play out of the box formular here. Also people have no idea what you are, what you already do and how you play and what you play and what you know and what you've tried. You've asked a question - some guys did their best to share thoughts with you. You can goZallon021 said:
as much as you wish...If you are talking about "Sounding" like David Gilmour - then there's no simple answer. It's a complex combination of different thing not to mention that DG uses different instruments/effectes/settings for different result (he's not a one guitar-one amp player).
If your question is simply about "sustain" - get a "sustainer". Which one? - Go to the store and try them... that's the only way to find one you like.
If you ask about pick-ups recommendation - you'll get as many different answers as you can imagine.... which pickups are the best for this or that, which guitar is the best for this or that, which amp is the best for this or that etc etc...blah blah ...
Get BigMuff, eq, some delay and reverb.... play around... get your sound to last... get happy.
If you don't like links and few thoughts from B-Board, then you may try to pay somebody for private lessons or something. You've got here more info than you need to get "that DG sound" ... you just need to put your MIND into it... if you can, of course...
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Zallon021
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You Are pissed of for no reason i was just screwing around with the smiles ok and i have played brothers in arms, another brick in the wall, young lust solo,
stairway to heaven, I play good and fast also steady there now stop pmsing !
Get NewPhase for that here is a link! http://www.healthatoz.com/healthatoz/Atoz/hc/wom/meno/menoindex.jsp
stairway to heaven, I play good and fast also steady there now stop pmsing !
Get NewPhase for that here is a link! http://www.healthatoz.com/healthatoz/Atoz/hc/wom/meno/menoindex.jsp
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ggunn
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Zallon021 said:Is it better to have a humbucker or single coil for a bridge pickup, im looking for that David Gilmour sound like in Another Brick in The Wall and Young Lust. You know that sound that blends the solo together and what is a good suggestion for them thx bye
Humbuckers on a Strat is heresy!
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Zallon021
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Well All I know is that I need a David Gilmour sounding pickup and know that I can play Young Lust with him if I listen to it and I can play along with it and same as another brick in the wall and my question is what makes your bends last longer?
Dr ZEE
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HAH HAH...Who's pissed of?Zallon021 said:
what ever ...
You just get reply to your screwing around with the smiles or what have Ya. Nobody really gives a wink'bout.
Also you are missing one solo from your list, that's for sure: Chris Rea's "Road to Hell". Get your strat ready and hit it, baby
.... you'd have to search yourself for a link or book or video or a teacher. Learning Google maybe a No.1 thing to learn for you......or and don't get pissed.... because I'm just kiddin' and jokin' .... as always, I've a smile on my avatar.... in case you've missed it, - it's this one:
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Fade
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Humbuckers on a strat = a cheap way to get a wicked tone. My Strat is the only electric guitar I own and I love the way it plays, but single coils suck for metal and I don't have the cash for a second guitar. So for a $110 mod, I got a guitar that plays awesome and has the tone I want. Nothing blasphemous there.ggunn said:
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Clive Hugh
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I put 2 Seymour SH'59's in my strat about 4 months ago, today I went back to the single coils it came with, I just prefer it, same with EMG's they were too glassy for me, I could have saved myself some money on both occasions.
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ggunn
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Fade said:
I didn't mean to cast any aspersions, so don't take offense, but I'm a bit of a purist when it comes to Strats. My "heresy" comment was a bit tongue-in-cheek. It's your guitar; take a chainsaw to it if you want. ;^)
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Fade
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No need for chainsaws, I just hate single coils.ggunn said:
gbondo9
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Does Behringer make pickups?
Cause that would be the way to go to get that tone you want. Behringer can make anything you do...better.
Cause that would be the way to go to get that tone you want. Behringer can make anything you do...better.
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Gnash5150
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I use an Ibanez with a Dimarzio Evolution, humbucker in the neck positon, and a Seymor Duncan distortion at the bridge. If you tap the neck, you can have that DG tone, backing off the volume. Tapping the bridge sounds really cool for the Ty Tabor tone. Having the humbucker gives you alot of tone options.
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Fade
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Umm.....nogbondo9 said:
