How many Watts is suggested for bass to be heard over unmic'd drummer???

[videodrone]

Im looking for a bass cabinet adn I dont know how many Watts I should get?

Also do you suggest for bass?

1 - 10
1- 12
1 - 15
2 - 10
2 - 12
4 - 10

All the cabinets are loaded with Eminince also

 

[DJL]

Eight 15's with two 10's on top of each 15 and each stack driven with 400 watts each, for a total of eight 15's, sixteen 10's and 3200 watts and you'd be just loud enough to play with my drummer.

One EV 15" and two 10's with about 400 watts bi-amped is normally good for most small club gigs. The 15 with two 10's gives you both -- Punch and Bottom end.

Or if your drummer isn't a real loud player you could get a http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7...4091507605/search/g=home/detail/base_id/75700

 

[Buck62]

Most of the bass players I've seen lately are running 200 or 300 watts through a 4-10 bottom.

Using a 4-10 bottom sounds punchier and has more definition than a 1-15 cabinet. You get a tighter, faster response when you start ripping out those notes and bass chords... especially if you're slapping and/or soloing.

 

[luzer_kidd]

I play shows with a Gallien Krueger 800RB
wich is 300 watts. And I have that hooked
up to a Ampeg 4-10 Cab I think the cab can
Handle 400 watts RMS or something, I'm not
sure at the moment. And when i'm playing
a show I turn my amp up maybe a little over 1/4 of
the way up and its usually still to loud. And if I really
needed to the 800RB is BI-Ampable. So i have all the lows
going through the 300 watt amp into the 4-10 cab.
then i also have a Hartke 2-10 cab for all the highs witch the
amp puts out 100 watts on that.

And just in case you dont know and your thinking that the
300 watts will over power the 100 watts. Low sounds need
more watts than the highs, and highs need less wattage to
to be pushed. Thats why you can have a 50 watt guitar amp
and still have it as loud as a 300 watt bass amp.

 

[LocusLarsen]

I saw a show a while back and this guy had a homebuilt 8 10's cab with a homebuilt 4 15's and claimed that his head was 2000 watts. It was not a custom head. Is there such a thing as a 2000 watt bass head?

 

[DeadPoet]

Wattage isn't the whole story... I know my 300W SWR rig appears to be softer sounding than a 100W Fender Bassman (tube)..

LocusLarsen: I know of the Ampeg SVT IV that does 1600W, and I think I read they have a new head doing even more. Those kinds of amps are ridiculous.

I remember last summer replacing in a cover rock band on a concert for youngsters (about 2000 present). There was this local band as an opener and their bass player was playing with a Trace pre into a P.A. power amp through a 2x15", a 2x10" and a 4x4". I was outside and went in to listen to the band next to the FOH console. I mentioned to the engineer that I found the bass rather loud comparing to the band...seems his fader was at minus infinity... I was hearing the bass rig only!! And this guy was LOUD!

Not my style though...


I'm a fan of 4x10 over 1x15, but I guess it's a matter of taste. 4x10 goes deeper and higher, while 1x15 has more mid punch.


Herwig

 

[Toki987]

The question you have asked is such an ambiguous question there could be many answers to it. It all depends on the type of acoustical environment you plan to work in. I use the solid state Gallien-Kruger amps as well a series of Fender bass amps. For small rooms that do not require reinforcement and seating approximately 20 to 80 people The GK 200RB at 150 watts and a 2x10 or a small 15" folded horn I built suffices. For a small 80 to 200 club environment I can slip a 4x10 cabinet under it with the folded 15 and cover it well, and may use one of the Fender Bassman heads (jus cause I like hearing the crunch and smellin the tubes get hot ). For rooms seating 250 or higher I usually revert back to the GK and the 4x10 for monitoring and let the PA do the work. For me there are no more days of the 500lb rigs. With sound reinforcement being as efficient as it is these days, why carry the weight?
Eminence manufactures a good line of speakers for many companies and for many applications. I prefer Electro-Voice however.The replacement cost is a little higher but I have found more bang for the buck over the years with them over JBL and Gauss.

 

[DJL]

I play shows with a Gallien Krueger 800RB
wich is 300 watts.

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The GK 800RB is 400 watts total. Bi-amped, 100 watts to the top and 300 watts to the bottom.

 

[luzer_kidd]

i know the GK 800RB is 400 watts.. but thats only if you add the 2 amps inside of it together.... when i play shows i only use the 300 watt amp... cuz i only play with my 4-10 cab i have yet to play a big enough show wher ei need my 2-10 cab... and if i did play with both cabs it still would not be 400 watts the most i would get is 300

 

[DJL]

I have a lot amps, and I've owned my little GK800RB practice amp for about 15 years and it puts out 400 watts in the bi-amped mode.

 

[Toki987]

DJL babe, that GK800 ain't no "little" practice amp. It is MOAB in a little box.

 

[luzer_kidd]

omg dont u people understand that its 400 watts if u use addition and add the 300 watt amp and the 100 watt amp.... thats how u get ur 400 watts the loudest it will get is the 300 watts.... cuz the main amp is 300 watts if it is bi-amped u have 300 going to one cab and 100 going to another cab... now tell me where is the 400 watts.... u dont have 400 going to one cabinet ... and u cant somehow link both of them together because it says right on the back by the outputs do not link them together in any way.... well u can u would probably just F*ck up the amp.......