How many people here DON'T use pitch correction in there mixes?

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*raises glass*

Possibly because I've never had it up til now. Now I have it, I still haven't figured out how it works. When I work it out, I may well apply it to my warbly vocals if I have to.. can't say.
 
If you're referring to a pitch corrector like autotune, I'd like to try it. Don't have one.
 
Never, I don't have any installed and I won't be installing any. If it was installed I would be doing hours of editing instead of the clients learning how to sing and play correctly before they get to the studio.

Alan.
 
I'm surprised by the turn out here.
I use it, but sparingly.

I use it for that 3 minute take with 2 slightly out notes in it.
I just find it's quicker and easier for me to fix it later than it is to drop in for a phrase or two, plus continuity is better.
Maybe it's just me, but the singer doesn't always find the same position relative to the mic, and for that reason, (I guess), hindsight drop ins often sound slightly different.

I also use it shamelessly and librerally on harmonies, because it's much harder to hear it on them, and they need to be bang on.
Sometimes I'll even construct an entire harmony by duplicating and retuning the main line.
 
Never used it and while I rarely say never, I probably never will.
My friend explained to me a few years back that he did some recordings with a mutual friend and by the time he got round to listening properly to them and discovered some off notes, she'd already left the country and hasn't returned since {this was 2009}. So he had to apply a little pitch correction in absentia. I'm not against it because it can obviously be quite useful to touch up a note here and there. I'd have no qualms about touching up a slighly flat or sharp guitar note with an overdub so logically, it follows that it has it's uses.

And yet........

I'm a mixture of very much old school, ear to the ground up on newer moves and somewhere in between. There's no logic, rhyme nor reason to why I like some things and not others. I don't like chorus. I can't stand vocoders. I'm not opposed to the sound of programmed drums on those mid 90s R&B tracks. They sound great. But I dislike autotune. Or more to the point, I dislike it when I hear it's pronounced, deliberate effect. It's like an overdose of chorus.
AAAAARRRRGGGGHHHH !!!!!

UUUURRRRRRGGGGGHHHH !!!!

GGGGRRROOOOUUUGGGHHH !!!

Combined with that, I'm very particular about flat or sharp singing. In my sessions if I or anyone singing gets it wrong, we just do it again. Until it's right. Sometimes it sounds OK then a listen a few days later reveals that the singing is off. So the session gets done again. I have a song called "Early to bed" at the moment that has, as it's main refrain, some flat singing. At the time I just couldn't remember the melody. It was really awkward to find as we were singing to the bass and drums. But I love the blend of my two friends' voices and mine so even though one is heavilly pregnant and the other lives in Switzerland and we recorded back in October or November and it's the only thing needed to be finished to complete the song, I'm waiting until early next year when my mate is in the country so we can retrack it and finish it off.

I guess it would be alot easier to just apply some autotune or melodyne !
 
Since pitch correction algorithms are digital, and my signal path is all analog, I'd have to say never. :D
 
I don't, but that's because I haven't run into a spot where I think it would help yet.
 
Never. Wouldn't know how even if I wanted to. Thankfully the stuff I record doesn't need to be pitch perfect, and I prefer that it not be. And i don't want it as an effect. I'm not doing silly pop or Celine Dion music.
 
To the OP....just to be clear...are you talking about slappin' an auto-tune plug across an entire track, or using one of them hardware boxes in the signal chain while tracking, and just letting it pitch-correct everything on the fly...
....or are you also talking about "manually" pitch-correcting single notes, using the DAW's pitch/time stretch functions to spot-fix stuff?

I don't bother with the former, as it is very obvious to my ears when any "auto-tune" is on, and I don't have any "auto-tune" apps or boxes....but my DAW, like most, provides the ability to edit pitches, and I've done that on occasion to fix a few sour notes on vocals, guitars, bass...but there's only a small working range, so it's not going to work well on stuff that is just plain-old *out of tune*.
You can't edit an entire track to make it sound good, as more liberal editing is going to be very noticeable, just like any "auto-tune" plug/box...but you can fine-tune some stuff in small degrees and just a few spots of a track to tighten something up.
I will usually "slice out" just the single note, and see if I can adjust it without mangling it...(I'm talking like 0.0xx +/-)...sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't...it depends on what you are editing, and it's not something I would want to do on a lot of stuff as it's time consuming and tedious to do manually, but can help save something in a pinch...otherwise it's back to re-tracking or punching-in.
 
When used correctly, nobody would know. Why would you tell anyone other than the singer. Hell, they usually think they are just that good. Until you see them live......
 
Always use it no matter who my singer is... i dont tune everything perfectly but i use it tastefully. everything is best in moderation.

people only notice it if its perfect or robotic
 
CMB Studios said:
... i dont tune everything perfectly but i use it tastefully.
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What does that mean...?

If the singer sings 0.2 cents flat...do you set it to only correct 0.1 worth...???

Just not understanding what/how you do pitch correction "tastefully"....?...unless you are saying that if the singer is way off, by NOT forcing the correction all the way to 100%...that it's more "natural"...hence "tastefull"...?

I know why they just have it "ON" all the time for some singer in live situations....but I don't get why you would use it on every singer, every vocal all the time during recording? I mean, if the singer is solid, but only has one-two notes off here-n-there...why continuously process the entire vocal rather than spot-fix just the one-two notes???
 
CMB Studios said:
And i strongly recommend melodyne over autotune.
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Absolutely! I use Cubase VariAudio for most situations, but sometimes it just don't cut it. The ability to work with formants in Melodyne, helps to keep things more natural. It is a much better tool, though it takes a bit more time.
 
miroslav said:
What does that mean...?

If the singer sings 0.2 cents flat...do you set it to only correct 0.1 worth...???

Just not understanding what/how you do pitch correction "tastefully"....?...unless you are saying that if the singer is way off, by NOT forcing the correction all the way to 100%...that it's more "natural"...hence "tastefull"...?

I know why they just have it "ON" all the time for some singer in live situations....but I don't get why you would use it on every singer, every vocal all the time during recording? I mean, if the singer is solid, but only has one-two notes off here-n-there...why continuously process the entire vocal rather than spot-fix just the one-two notes???
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Never during recording. I believe he meant on every session. Not on all the time. I use it all the time to, just to spot fix issues.
 
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