How does it seem?

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mixmkr said:
that was the gay-est song and production I've recently heard, that I could only listen to about 15 seconds of it.
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No need to bring homophobia into the realm of critiquing music.

Richard Swift does a great job producing Foxygen's album. He's a great producer. They've received universal critical acclaim.
 
homophobia... afraid of homos?? Actually, I thought my descriptive use of words would be the easiest to understand...than some monkee-ing around the bush and tip-toeing over politically correct words.

Sorry if I offended.... oh...you're from California..... sorry Duuude!! Macle doesn't care...he's probably laughing is ass off now.
 
mixmkr said:
homophobia... afraid of homos?? Actually, I thought my descriptive use of words would be the easiest to understand...than some monkee-ing around the bush and tip-toeing over politically correct words.

Sorry if I offended.... oh...you're from California..... sorry Duuude!! Macle doesn't care...he's probably laughing is ass off now.
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Yeah "gay-est production I've recently heard" is so descriptive. Don't blame me if you can't articulate without throwing around homophobic innuendos. You don't have to tip-toe if you don't want, just know that it makes you seem like you lack the intellectual capacity to critique music on a respectable level. I've never heard any reputable music publication describe a sound the way that you did.
 
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should I have said queer production instead? C'mon man... what's slang for one person is...well... don't take it personal. I"m not jumping your case. I thought I could just quicker relate to the quadraphobes that we refer to as musicians around here!

btw...what decade is your stomping grounds? makes a diff ya know.

no harm meant. It was kinda like digging up an old Partridge Family video and thinking it was currently relevant.
 
Magnawolf said:
I think your songwriting and your voice is great. But you should put more emphasis on the production. Your great songwriting will shine through so you shouldn't be shy to let the instruments take over the song at times. Here's a song that sounds like something you would possibly go for, but note the production of the song. Foxygen - San Francisco (Official Video) - YouTube

I'm not entirely sure what your influences are but you should listen to how some of the songs you listen to are produced. Listen to how they mix and EQ the instruments. If you really want to get more vintage, keep the sound way more in frequency. Keep most of the instruments in the midrange and let out some of the air out in the upper frequencies. Doing this can be hard to achieve because you can end up with a muddy mix. Let your ears do the work though.

I still think even without going more "lo-fi" your songs can get better if you just focus more on being a producer than being a songwriter/vocalist.
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I don't think you and I were listening to the same recording. But I love your line, "keep the sound way more in frequency".
 
Whoops, I meant to put "keep the sound in mid-range frequency." The song I linked was an example of a vintage sound but with clean studio production. He could go that route or he could change his mixing, by mostly occupying the mid-range frequencies, to achieve a vintage sound. Or he can do both.
 
Hey macle,

I think this sounds very nice. You're right, it is a bit different. A little more pop, a little less retro and certainly less beatles-ey sounding than other tracks of yours I've heard.

The vocals are really well done as usual and there's a nice balance between all of the instruments. The kick was maybe a little overwhelming on this little bookshelf speaker/subwoofer combo, but not too bad. I liked the little outro.
 
Magnawolf said:
I think your songwriting and your voice is great. But you should put more emphasis on the production. Your great songwriting will shine through so you shouldn't be shy to let the instruments take over the song at times. Here's a song that sounds like something you would possibly go for, but note the production of the song. Foxygen - San Francisco (Official Video) - YouTube
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That definitely has a very mid 60's sound. I guess they recorded it on a little cassette portastudio thing (1:31)! ;)

I still think even without going more "lo-fi" your songs can get better if you just focus more on being a producer than being a songwriter/vocalist.
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It's funny you say that, cuz right when I finished this one, I sort of said to myself I was through trying to be producer! As of now, i'm going to try to just get somewhat simple versions that I can live with that hopefully don't take long.

But thanks for the tips, knowing me, I will probably get sucked back in to trying to do it all up again.
 
mixmkr said:
that was the gay-est song and production I've recently heard, that I could only listen to about 15 seconds of it.

Macle... good stuff. Skip the 4 track reel to reel. It'll just give you headaches and put huge limits on what you're doing now. Remember those guys recording on those machines used top notch machines of the day and were "kings of track bouncing". There are plugs that emulate tape saturation, but honestly why the retro? Your recordings lack the upper air and sheen in most professionally produced recordings nowadays, which in a sense give you that "warm" retro feel. Production won't make a song, but a song will let the production shine. I'd go the latter route, without doubt.
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Thanks mixmkr. I don't know, I thought maybe a reel to reel would be sort of fun, and would force me to just focus more on the playing and recording without the temptation to focus on all the other stuff.

But, i'm going to try to do that now without the reel to reel. Maybe that will work well enough, and I won't bother with the reel to reel thing.

Thanks!
 
heatmiser said:
Hey macle,

I think this sounds very nice. You're right, it is a bit different. A little more pop, a little less retro and certainly less beatles-ey sounding than other tracks of yours I've heard.

The vocals are really well done as usual and there's a nice balance between all of the instruments. The kick was maybe a little overwhelming on this little bookshelf speaker/subwoofer combo, but not too bad. I liked the little outro.
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Skipping over the controversial stuff :o

Hey Heatmiser, thanks.

Do you think it's a good direction to switch to, or a worse direction?
 
macle said:
...when I finished this one, I sort of said to myself I was through trying to be producer! As of now, i'm going to try to just get somewhat simple versions that I can live with
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I think that's a good approach. :)
 
macle said:
Skipping over the controversial stuff :o

Hey Heatmiser, thanks.

Do you think it's a good direction to switch to, or a worse direction?
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I don't know that it's better or worse necessarily, but I know I enjoyed hearing something a little different stylistically from you. I love your other tunes, but it's always cool to hear a new approach from someone in here whom you've heard many times before.
 
Very retro, M ... the mix fits the song style. I wouldn't change anything as it fits what it is.
 
heatmiser said:
I don't know that it's better or worse necessarily, but I know I enjoyed hearing something a little different stylistically from you. I love your other tunes, but it's always cool to hear a new approach from someone in here whom you've heard many times before.
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Okay, thanks very much for the feedback. Am switching approaches again!
 
Great job on this...
Great job on all your tracks.

I like the voice settings you used in Good Night Priscilla song and it would be nice addition to this one too.
 
I like all the little production touches that come and go. Reminds me a little of Neil Finn's Try Whistling This album. One thing is few sure - your voice really shines on top of this track.
 
This sounds really good Macle - I like how you got a simple framework that let you hang different elements that come and go throughout the mix on. Don't think I'd change anything, good work!
 
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