hey guys! been a while

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hey so it's been forever since i've posted any songs lol..since november i believe! so check it, i've done two new ones..

this first one i like just because it's a nice riff, even if it is just pentatonics lol




i've been on a cky kick lately; i LOVE that band..and i love their guitar riffs and skillful playing..i tried to do some fast picking with this next one, but it's kind of sloppy lol (i'm not the best at this fast picking yet!)



as usual, drums are always sloppy..hey im no drummer!! haha

all was recorded on my JCM2000..holy hell uses a whammy set to upper 5th, flange, chorus, boss octave and marshall guvnor pedals on the guitars (try and figure out which of the 3 uses what ;) ) and may 3 is the same, sans flange and whammy.
 
Sounds like some old "Budgie"... riff oriented rock n roll with that dry drum sound. Seems like the stereo field is collapsed a little bit. Other than this sounds like it was recorded in the 70's (recording sound wize), it could use some 2009 recording polish to it... if that's desired that is.
 
lol niiiice. it would be desired, if i were any good at mixing hahahah...i use adobe audition 1.5, and really, i don't master...i just mix stuff and that's that...its very very amateur..very amateur setup!
 
"Holy Hell" has a very Rage vibe. I dig it. And don't be distraught by just using pentatonics! I heard a b5 in there so you can be fancy and say "oh it used the blues scale, actually!" ;)
 
love the groove. Rage, yeah, or Clutch. I dig!

gonna vocalize?
Thanks!
Matty
 
The pulse feels good...you do OK on the drums.

I think you could do a lot with this in the mix to make it happen:

Try putting some low freqs in the guitars...sounds very fuzz-boxy...no grit and pump in the bottom end...

I'd make the guits louder to draw the ear away from the center... even out the balance across the field. The lows in the guits might get you there.

Add a little reverb to give an illusion of space. Espacially on the kit. A nice decay on the snare, especially, would be nice. Try some overall verb...see what works.

Work on the bass guitar and kick matchup , sound-wise. They are what carries the top....and I can't hear them working together...giving impact and punctuation down below. Solo the bass and bass drum. A nice 'bang' on the note at the beginning...and a decay from there....with a good dose of ooomph. EQ Bass in the bass guitar. Build up from there, without burying the punch delivered by the pair.

Then I'd experiment with some excitation / widening/ expansion on mastering software, if the above didn't breath life into the mix: the sound is two-dimentional. It lacks definition and depth. I don't know the recording thing you work with...maybe not possible??

Good playing...good pulse. The recording and mix don't do it justice.
 
ZoSo58LP said:
hey so it's been forever since i've posted any songs lol..since november i believe! so check it, i've done two new ones..

this first one i like just because it's a nice riff, even if it is just pentatonics lol

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The first one is great!

It's a shame that you're not savvy enough to take a great riff like that and turn into something.

I'm just saying!

The second link sucked!
 
Stoner rock.. that's what we have here! Sounds very 70's, kind of Sabbathy.. and refreshingly nu-metal free!

Drum sound is maybe what it's lacking, if they were more compressed and studio sounding instead of small-room sounding that would take it to the next level I think. Sounds wild and organic, unlike my clinical sound, I'd like to sound like this! :)
 
hey guys, thanks for the advice (and criticism, 60's guy! ;) ) lol...as for Jeff, that's great advice! my question to you is, since I basically have only ONE track for drums, how would you advise adding such effects to my kit, without making it sound too muddy? like, sometimes i'll give reverb a shot on the drums, but since it reverbs EVERYTHING, it gets a tad muddy...i really wish i had seperate tracks for every drum, but oh well, can't complain really :\

any advice for mic placement for the guitar, as well? i used a shure sm57 on my 1960a 4x12 marshall cab..used it on the bottom left speaker..about 6 in. or so away, aimed towards the middle of the cone...is that a good placement to pick up those lows? or should i just add lows in the mix itself?

also, for the life of me, i can never mix bass! lol..i'm a bassist first and foremost, but man i can never mix the bass in to where it isn't stealing too much low end freq from the kick drum, or clipping like crazy!
 
Well, if you can add a verb to the kit's track, you can sometimes pick the 'dampening' frequency bands. Narrow the active verb to the frequency range that the snare sits in...or the good part of it...maybe the boom, or the 'pop' might work better??

I don't have a clue what you're working with.

Those guitars sure don't sound like Marshalls! I like 'em plugged direct...no pre-mix fx. Did you use a bunch o' pedals? Might have killed the original signal dead...long runs of sub-par cable. Or did you use an on-board overdrive on the Marshall? A transistor Marshall?? An old tuber, direct, with a mic anywhere in the same room should sound great. Kinda like what Angus [ACDC] gets....pure balls. Or old Clapton from the Cream era with a Strat.

Jeez...I wish I still had all that old stuff.

Carry on! Keep recording. Every day. You'll figure it out!
 
ahh, thanks, i'll definitly play around wtih some verb.

as for the marshall, my tone has always been thin..i don't know why...but it's a fat sound in person, believe me

and it's even fatter when i blast the boss octave pedal, too....i just guess my sm57 doesn't really show it. i actually do have a decent setup on the marshall..my FX loop's got my whammy, my delay, and my chorus....then, i go from my guitar, to my wah, to my boss overdrive, to a marshall guvnor distortion pedal, to a boss flange. but in person, it's a great tone..i'm sure my crappy cables DO kill the REAL tone though, but i can never get a great tone through mics! hmm
 
Mebbe your 57 is kaput?

Electronic whammy?????? Say it ain't so.......
 
lol..the digitech whammy pedal! have you played with one? they're great for harmonizing..on that song, i set it to a 5th above, and since it's in the FX loop, it's got a more digital sound than being first in the chain. they're a cool, fun tool to get some wacky new sounds. tom morello made the whammy pretty big with Rage
 
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