headphone amps

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It seems to me like most people here are not really reading the actual question.

haha, i just hopped back on this thread.. and yes.. I think people just see the topic "headphone amps" and have thrown their suggestions.

All of the headphone amps you guys have mentioned only include a master input, and a direct input. This is not what I'm looking for.


on well.:rolleyes:
 
haha, i just hopped back on this thread.. and yes.. I think people just see the topic "headphone amps" and have thrown their suggestions.

All of the headphone amps you guys have mentioned only include a master input, and a direct input. This is not what I'm looking for.


on well.:rolleyes:

It might help if you mentioned what you are looking for.
 
At the beginning of this thread he mentioned something similar to the Mackie and gave a link. The Mackie in question is more similar to the Aviom, HEAR Tech, the OZ audio and the Fuhrman HR. The reason being is that each headphone output is comprised of 5 sources. There is a stereo input and 4 mono inputs. Each heapdphone output can now have a blend of 5 different signal chains as opposed to the 2 that are listed in most of the replies here. The Behringer, Presonus, Samson etc... really only offer 2 discreet inputs per headphone mix and not 5, which actually makes a huge difference in terms of flexibility and personalizing a headphone mix amongst multiple simultaneous listeners.

Basically, MadHatter DID actually ask for what he was listening for, assuming of course that readers followed the link and read a bit about the specific headphone system that was linked to.
 
Basically, MadHatter DID actually ask for what he was listening for, assuming of course that readers followed the link and read a bit about the specific headphone system that was linked to.

I did go to the link and read the product description. I'm just saying if you're going to laugh at all the suggestions people are giving (trying to help) but you don't specify the features (i.e. I want 5 inputs per channel) you're looking for that leaves things open to interpretation and a lot of responses that aren't helpful. Yeah, most of them were off the mark completely (mine included), but you can expect that, especially in this forum. I'm new here but just about any forum has responses that get off target or topic. It's cute how you're defending xstatic. Looks like xstatic's band needs a fairly complex headphone mix.
 
Ahh...uhm... ahem... the "D" word, remember valor...

Was I out of line again? Wasn't trying to be at all. Man this forum has the biggest collective bunch of fucking babies that I've ever seen. How's that for discretion?
 
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Yak, maybe you shouldn't take all this so personally. As far as I can tell, no one was laughing at anything. My comments were intended to bring the topic back in to play and to get people to look at the actual needs rather than spouting off one of many basic heapdpone amps. I understand that things get off topic sometimes, but the way I perceived things, people were not off topic on purpose, but just not looking very closely at the actual question.

As for the "fuckin babies" part, call it what you will, but no one else seems to be crying here about anything. I am not the one that tried to defend the Behringer by calling it "similar to the Mackie in that it has flexible routing capabilities". It really is not all that similar. The Behringer really only has 2 discreet routing options per channel and not 5. It has other features that may make it flexible (i.e. some basic EQ, mono button etc...) but the routing itself is not very flexible which is what MadHatter is after (at least in my interpretation of his question). Not only that, but the same aux input does not become available to all the headphone mixes, but only to the individual headphone channel to which it is patched. In the end, that does not equate to much of a flexible routing scheme to me.

Instead of getting defensive about all of this, maybe you could have just mentioned that you did not properly understand the question. Maybe instead of accusing others you could start with examining your own actions?
 
Yak, maybe you shouldn't take all this so personally. As far as I can tell, no one was laughing at anything. My comments were intended to bring the topic back in to play and to get people to look at the actual needs rather than spouting off one of many basic heapdpone amps. I understand that things get off topic sometimes, but the way I perceived things, people were not off topic on purpose, but just not looking very closely at the actual question.

As for the "fuckin babies" part, call it what you will, but no one else seems to be crying here about anything. I am not the one that tried to defend the Behringer by calling it "similar to the Mackie in that it has flexible routing capabilities". It really is not all that similar. The Behringer really only has 2 discreet routing options per channel and not 5. It has other features that may make it flexible (i.e. some basic EQ, mono button etc...) but the routing itself is not very flexible which is what MadHatter is after (at least in my interpretation of his question). Not only that, but the same aux input does not become available to all the headphone mixes, but only to the individual headphone channel to which it is patched. In the end, that does not equate to much of a flexible routing scheme to me.

Instead of getting defensive about all of this, maybe you could have just mentioned that you did not properly understand the question. Maybe instead of accusing others you could start with examining your own actions?

I understood the question. You're right I'm getting defensive and it's really not a big deal, but the general feel of this forum is a little strange. Really my original intention was to try to help madhatter and I love reading and learning about gear that's unfamiliar to me. It would've clarified things more if madhatter described his criteria and that might have reduced the amount of well intended/but not useful feedback this thread has received. The fucking baby comment was maybe out of line but that has been my general observation here. You included xstatic. Several members have PM'd me saying how full of hot air you are xstatic. Sounds like your head is firmly wedged in madhatter's ass.
 
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It might help if you mentioned what you are looking for.

I did mention what I needed.

Anyone know of something that is similar to this in rack form?
http://www.mackie.com/products/hmx56/

Understanding that this may have been too vague when someone started suggesting similar units as the one you did.. I replied with this though however.

both units, + all of the rackmountable units I've seen are only two inputs (main input and a direct input per channel). I'd like something that has 4 inputs and be able to mix those to at least 3 different headphones.
The mackie seems to be right at what I need, I just wish it was in rackmount form.


Was I out of line again? Wasn't trying to be at all. Man this forum has the biggest collective bunch of fucking babies that I've ever seen. How's that for discretion?

You included xstatic. Several members have PM'd me saying how full of hot air you are xstatic. Sounds like your head is firmly wedged in madhatter's ass.

Really dude? Honestly, I don't post much here. This may be the first thread me and xstatic have had a discussion in...

You're talking about how people are PMing you about xstatic and yes I understand that forums are allowed room to go off topic.. but dude, if you've got personal issues with xstatic.. what's the point of dragging it out here?

I don't think xstatic did anything wrong here? He simply cleared up what I was looking for since he understood what I meant. and I think whalebone understood it as well. Unfortunately the hearback system is just a little too pricey and requires too many components (rack, + individual mixers)

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haha - it is quite a fun read :)
 
Personally, I really do not care what other members have PM'ed you about me. Maybe they just don't get things either. I am not the one that took this to a personal level though, maybe try and remember that. I do understand that your original intention was probably a good one. I pointed things out to clarify things so that we could get some applicable thoughts and recommendations here. It wasn't aimed at you or anyone specific, just trying to clarify that the stock headphone amp doesn't apply in this specific scenario since many people, including you, did not seem to understand that, at least in this specific thread.

It seems to me that the original post was clear enough, if you had read the description listed in the link. Obviously some people did not understand this though, so MadHatter clarified further, as did I.

As for my head being stuck up MadHatters ass, once again, you are free to think what you want. Personally, I don't know MadHatter just like I don't know most people here. I have nothing to gain either way here. I guess if clarifying things and making a recomendation that actually applies is akin to my head being up his ass, oh well. With all the attitude you are giving over something so simple and stupid, maybe you should have a look at where your head is?
 
What's your budget? Allen & Heath makes a rackmountable board in their MixWizard series that's a 16x16 matrix, which would probably accomodate everything you'd ever need. It's got XLR splits in it and everything. You could get one of those, and then run your individual outputs from that into the individual channel inputs on any of the rackmountable multichannel headphone amps (the Behringers et al.) that have been mentioned here. Might be overkill, but you'd probably never have to upgrade.
 
not trying to be a smarta**....but if you want something to do what the mackie does.....stop being cheap and.....GET THE MACKIE!!!!!
 
not trying to be a smartass, but if the mackie was what I was looking for.. I'd "GET THE MACKIE"

I need what the mackie does, but in the form of rackmount...
but thanks for not being a smartass :)

My first post was "does anyone know where I can get something similar to this but in rack form" not in "cheap form"..
 
What's your budget? Allen & Heath makes a rackmountable board in their MixWizard series that's a 16x16 matrix, which would probably accomodate everything you'd ever need. It's got XLR splits in it and everything. You could get one of those, and then run your individual outputs from that into the individual channel inputs on any of the rackmountable multichannel headphone amps (the Behringers et al.) that have been mentioned here. Might be overkill, but you'd probably never have to upgrade.

I found a desk version for 1,900. still not rackmountable, and ridiculously huge :)

but you're right, i'd definitely never need to upgrade. :) but 2k of that jazz for my needs is a little excessive.
 
The little Allen Heath is a pretty handy little mixer. It is designed very close in layout and features to the Crest XRM. The biggest difference I see is that the Allen Heath has more mic pre's (16), but no stereo channels. The Crest has 12 mic pre's, but also has 4 stereo channels. The whole compact monitor mixer with inbuilt split though is a pretty cool idea for bands using their own in ear monitoring system:) Both are certainly rack mountable, but take up considerable rack space.
 
The little Allen Heath is a pretty handy little mixer. It is designed very close in layout and features to the Crest XRM. The biggest difference I see is that the Allen Heath has more mic pre's (16), but no stereo channels. The Crest has 12 mic pre's, but also has 4 stereo channels. The whole compact monitor mixer with inbuilt split though is a pretty cool idea for bands using their own in ear monitoring system:) Both are certainly rack mountable, but take up considerable rack space.

the allen and heath i looked at is either 16 mono outs, or 8 stereo.
 
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