hard rock tune >> "Thief"

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i did a lot of multi-level compression and limting on these tracks.
very mild, but across the board, i had plug ins on the guitar buss, guitar tracks, the bass buss, the bass tracks (2), the vocal buss, drum tracks and drum buss, and of course, a special dual-parallel compression setup on the master buss, along with a limiter catching up to 2db peaks.

kept the overall master peak at -7db, which is typically a bit hotter than i usually keep myself too, only, now i'm experimenting with hotter premastered levels, and i'm liking it.
i think the mastered RMS average on this is only around -12db, so i could still push it harder if i wanted to....

this song was inspired by an ex-family member on the wife's side, stealing from the father, who has dementia.
 
Pretty cool. You've got a good variety of interesting riffs and tones going on with the guitars.

You've kind of got a Jane's Addiction kind of vocal tone.

Self-censoring the f-word sounds kind of goofy in a hard rock song like this.

Woah. That was really short.
 
Agree on the JA comparison. Love the vocals. A lot. Very good singing and tight harmonies. Good performances all around.

About the only thing I can make a constructive comment on is I wasn't thrilled with the distorted rhythm guitar tone. It wasn't awful, I just wanted more of a warm growl to it.

OK maybe a little too much reverb. Just a personal taste thing.

Oh second listen caught a doubled vocal out of sync at :25. On the last syllable of "society." Minor nit.

Good job.
 
Yeah definitely a Janes thing with the vocals, which are great. Very cool little tune. parts reminded me of Zappa. I like this one a lot
 
vomithat-
thanks man, JA, you're not the first to suggest that similarity, i really dig JA, but never considered perry farrell an influence...
the self censoring- yeah, well, that was really just a joke, i thought it would come across tongue n cheek...
it was really just to start off the next word, both starting with the letter "F", i actually recorded the line 'if you think i give a flying f`ck fortune has it that you will pay', and thought THAT sounded goofy!!
LOL
yep, short and sweet, like a quick slap in the face when you grabbed that certain someone somewhere that was unexpected.
heheh


tripleM
ok, JA's it is!
hehe
distorted rhythm guitar, eh?
this was recorded with a POD XT, which has long since gone away.
i think i was using the soldano model, can't remember the cab and mic setup.
it definitely does not sound like my mesa, that's for sure.
but i kinda dig it, just because it's so different than my other song sounds, and it sits sonically well between the other heavy tunes.
that 'society' line, yeah, you got a good ear!


bulls hit-
hehe, janes again.
why do i keep thinking of that opening song on 'entourage'....?
:laughings:
maybe i should cover 'been caught stealin'
always did dig that song.....
zappa, is probably more of a influence than JA, but it's cool how everybody hears something different in it.
someone else suggested 'suicidal tendencies'...... i don't really hear it that way, but still, i think it's pretty interesting what people pull out of it.
i'm just glad if anybody listens!
thanks!
 
My only complaint is the rhythm guitar tone, and the kick. The rhythm guitar definitely screams amp-sim to me. This kind of song definitely needs the warm growl of a mic'ed tube amp. The kick drum also sounds a little clicky to me, and doesn't seem to have much actual boom.

Other than that, it's a great song with an awesome solo and sick vocals. It sounds a little like a more proggy alice in chains at times.
 
fade-
thanks for listening.

don't like the rhythm tone?
that seems to be what most others DO dig...

i'm on the fence myself.
i just don't like amp modelers.
but i used one on this tune, more or less as an excercise, and an excuse, to record it to see how it came across.

maybe you're dialed into that.....

proggy alice.
yeah, i can see that.


i think i'm going to re-do this one from scratch, new drum track, new arrangment-
add a verse, add another instrumental break, make it longer, real amps and drums.
 
I think the kick needs a lot more attention, I can't really hear it in there at all. I like the guitar sound personally.
 
Overall really nice job. I wanted the last chord to keep going... like repeat the last bar a bunch of times, slow it down. Though - I'm a doomhead so it's probably just me.

Drums could use some humanising, drop the level of the snare in the tom rolls section, vary cymbal levels etc.

Not saying "f**k" really annoyed me too. Come on.
 
I really like it - I can hear the JA thing but it's not that strong a point of reference (I LOVE BCStealing).
I like the snare levels, the bass drum sounds like a bass drum instead of an ovaltine lid - GOOD!
The rhythm git is fine. Not something I'd harrangue you about at all. I mean, sims are sims & some are better than others yours doesn't sound like a sim as you've treated & placed it well in the mix.
It's nice to know that you were able to let off some steam too!
As to the F word - well, I don't swear as a general rule & I try to maintain reasonable grammar even when writing a song.
I'm happy for others to use language in any way that expresses their feelings.
F is rather like ouch these days & can sound cheezy - depending on how it's placed & rendered. What you did doesn't bother me in the slightest.
What I can offer is...TERRIFIC WORK mate!
 
Nice, yes, definitely. Interesting buildup, good energy, smooth mix. Excellent vocals. One thing that imo really jars: the distortion of the guitar. Too thin and grainy to really shine. It's like you're too shy to be really angry. If you can get that guitar to really roar this one will stand out. Good job.
Vincent
 
JUDDLY
doomhead.
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LOL
thats funny, and i totally got that....

ok.

fuck.
there you go.

heheheh

it just sounded plain silly, when i DID do it.
i played it back, listened, and said 'schmuck'.
:D



rayc
thanks man, i appreciate that.
i started working on a new version of it last night, using my favorite EZDrummer kit as the template for the sound.

i'm going to give the vibe of the drum track a completely new twist, and of course, all live guitars, another verse, another instrumental break, it'll be longer, and hopefully, more DOOMY.....
and of course, i'll have to throw in the requisite 'fuck', so i can get a 'Explicit Lyrics' sticker on my big album!
heheh


single
yep, new tracks, mean the boogie wide open and all grind is au natural.
i got about the first 45 seconds of the drums programmed.

LOL...
oh crap, the can of worms i opened now....
 
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