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i sure hope so. i paid for a lot of those shockmounts. they were also for the acm-240 and 220.
 
chris carter said:
A color poll limited to people in the group buy would be cool... although I don't want this to drag along any more than it needs to.

My vote for color is DEFINITELY white. Dark red lettering on white would be cool, but black lettering on white would be fine.

If I were a for-fun kind of guy, I'd say go for the crazy colors and slick look, but I'm a full-timer and that means:
a) I need sh!t to be easy to read... and easy to read in the dark (black on white is the easiest to read in the dark, hands down).
b) I prefer stuff to look more pro and understanded than consumer and flashy. Bright and/or shiny colors in a studio rack tend to look a little silly.
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Completely concur. White for pro work is my vote. Dark red lettering is a bonus.
 
A very well known and respected producer/engineer (the "T" in TnC) suggested that their quality of the colour white might look cheap.

You know, the more I think about it, the less I trust them to make a GOOD LOOKING white piece on their own, without you or us checking it first. Maybe they should be black or grey?? Safer?? Kinda like the sample photos on the site?
 
Black is fine with me... white or very light lettering would be good in that case, IMO.
 
chance said:
A very well known and respected producer/engineer (the "T" in TnC) suggested that their quality of the colour white might look cheap.

You know, the more I think about it, the less I trust them to make a GOOD LOOKING white piece on their own, without you or us checking it first. Maybe they should be black or grey?? Safer?? Kinda like the sample photos on the site?
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What he said about the white may or may not be true, but if it is true that the quality of the paint/process is poor, then it's probably going to be poor for all colors. Assuming for a minute that this is the situation, wouldn't chips or scratches more likely be visible with darker colors? A scratch that wipes out black paint and allows the alluminum underneath to come through is going to stand out whereas on white paint, it'll be much less noticeable.

In the end, go with whatever color you want and you'll hear no complaint from me. I just wanted to point that out.
 
JTC111 said:
What he said about the white may or may not be true, but if it is true that the quality of the paint/process is poor, then it's probably going to be poor for all colors. Assuming for a minute that this is the situation, wouldn't chips or scratches more likely be visible with darker colors? A scratch that wipes out black paint and allows the alluminum underneath to come through is going to stand out whereas on white paint, it'll be much less noticeable.
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Yes, but flaws in the finish that occur from uneven spray, contamination, etc. would probably be much less noticeable in black. I think that's what Chance meant.
 
Has there been a decision as to whether the ACM-4 will be dropped or kept?
Any idea what it may cost this time if kept?
 
Black with white lettering would be my choice......if there were a poll.....which there isn't, but whatever Chance thinks is best.:confused:

:D
 
I need a (couple) good ribbon mic's for all around recording. I record anything from rock bands, acoustic sets, horns, drums, etc.

Reccomendations? And how much will this cost me once its all said and done?
 
P. Glaser said:
Black with white lettering would be my choice......if there were a poll.....which there isn't, but whatever Chance thinks is best.:confused:

:D
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WELL... I went ahead and built a poll.... It might not have the proper color choices available, I just took the page that was available as color choices and made one... If there are other color choices that need to be added, or some of the ones I have listed, removed, I can do that...

Here's how it works:
When you log into the User Console, I small pop-up will appear with asking you to vote... IF YOU DON'T VOTE, everytime that you log into the User Console you will see this popup... ONCE YOU HAVE VOTED, this popup will no longer appear...

I haven't yet created a mechanism for viewing the results of the poll/voting yet... After a few of you vote and I have data to work with, I'll develop a section on the main page of the User Console that will display these results...

THIS IS FOR INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES ONLY. IT MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE A BEARING ON WHAT COLOR ACTUALLY GETS CHOSEN...BUT THEN AGAIN, IT MIGHT SINCE CHANCE WILL HAVE ACCESS TO THE RESULTS OF THE VOTING AS WELL.


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Just logged into the console... nothing. No Poll.

Nice color change though. :D
 
Thought the poll wasn't working but it was the pop up blocker.

Hey, how 'bout adding a link back to the console on the emails?
 
jndietz said:
I need a (couple) good ribbon mic's for all around recording. I record anything from rock bands, acoustic sets, horns, drums, etc.

Reccomendations? And how much will this cost me once its all said and done?
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The cost is going to be whatever the mic price is plus the Paypal fee plus shipping from wherever Chance is located once the mics arrive here in the US.

I'm gonna guess that if you ordered two ACM-3 ribbon mics, the breakdown would be close to this:
$xx each mic
$10 paypal
$15 shipping
total cost for two ribbon mics = $xxx

That's a guess, but it can't be far from the actual numbers.

You can view the mics here:
http://web.mac.com/chancepataki/iWeb/Site/MICROPHONES.html

...but the prices can't be seen until you register. BTW, registering doesn't lock you into anything and doesn't cost anything. Something to be aware of is this: this is a process and it's not going to happen in a few weeks. We could be looking at 6 months before delivery.

If I'm wrong on anything here, someone please feel free to correct me.
 
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For those who aren't just buying all three preamps and wondering which one(s) to get, the following may be of some help to the extent that the GB pres actually replicate the real thing. I haven't actually compared the specific features and EQ points, but my understanding is that the GB pres are based on these classic designs. This is from Mercenary Audio's website and authored by Fletcher.

While we're talking about Neve stuff (pay attention folks, the numbers are gonna fly by at a fast and furious pace), the Neve 1073 is probably the most famous of all Neve input modules. It features a wonderful mic pre, line input and an equalizer. There are two other modules that could have been ordered as alternates for the same console--the 1066 and its Cadillac sister, the 1084. The 1073 has a 3-band equalizer with a highpass filter.

The EQ points are: 12kHz shelving on the high band, six points in the mid band (7.2k, 4.8k, 3.2k, 1.6k, .7k, .36k), and four available frequencies on the low band (220, 110, 60 and 35 Hz). The 1066 has a 10kHz shelf on the high band, five available points on the mid (7k, 3.6k, 2.4k, 1.2k, .7k) and the same four on the low. It also has a highpass filter. Needless to say, the 1066 and the 1073 complement each other very nicely due to the variations in frequency points.

The 1084 has 10/12/15kHz selectable shelving frequencies on the high band, the same six points on the mid band as the 1073, and indeed the same four on the low band. It also features high- and lowpass filters, allowing you to have a bit more control over your high-frequency boost. The coolest part of the 1084 is the high "Q" switch available on the midrange band. "Q" refers to bandwidth--the higher the Q, the tighter the bandwidth. This lets you get a bit more specific with your midrange equalization.

A 1084 without a line input control, black plastic knobs/switches with light blue caps, is a 31102. This is the little fella found in the 8066, 8058, 8068, 8088, etc. consoles. (Yeah, there is a line input, but it's unbalanced and lacks control function; if you know that much this article isn't for you anyway.)

These are the primary 3-band modules of the early 80 Series desks. (I could write another thousand words on the subtle differences of the other models in this range, but I'll spare you.) They are also of the 1.75x8.75-inch frame size. The other frame size is 1.75x12 inches. The most common 3-band module in that size is the 1064. It has the same function as a 1066 (EQ points) except instead of a dual concentric frequency select/boost cut function, they are laid out on two separate switch assemblies. It is important to note that all of these models are Class-A designed throughout.

In the same frame size as the 1064 is the 1081. This is the powerhouse of Neve modules from a functional point of view. It has a 4-band equalizer that features multiple frequencies, selectable on the high and low frequencies, and a switch enabling both shelving and peak/dip use. The two midrange bands also have hi-Q functions, allowing remarkably specific equalization.

The beauty of most Neve modules is that Rupert Neve (everyone on your knees and salaam toward Texas, please) is so much smarter than the rest of us; he built modules that really couldn't be used to make things sound bad. There are generations of engineers who look like incredible geniuses because Neve wouldn't allow us the tools to screw up our audio. On the 1081 he gave us the tools, so I implore you to use the power wisely.

On a kind of technical note, the 1081 employed a Class-B output stage. There is nothing bad about the models with the "push/pull" output stages. They will not achieve the same rich, flowing low-end characteristics of their 3-band Class-A brothers but give a better low-end punch and a slightly "airier" top.
 
pohaku said:

The 1084 has 10/12/15kHz selectable shelving frequencies on the high band, the same six points on the mid band as the 1073, and indeed the same four on the low band. It also features high- and lowpass filters, allowing you to have a bit more control over your high-frequency boost. The coolest part of the 1084 is the high "Q" switch available on the midrange band. "Q" refers to bandwidth--the higher the Q, the tighter the bandwidth. This lets you get a bit more specific with your midrange equalization.

A 1084 without a line input control, black plastic knobs/switches with light blue caps, is a 31102. This is the little fella found in the 8066, 8058, 8068, 8088, etc. consoles. (Yeah, there is a line input, but it's unbalanced and lacks control function; if you know that much this article isn't for you anyway.)

In the same frame size as the 1064 is the 1081. This is the powerhouse of Neve modules from a functional point of view. It has a 4-band equalizer that features multiple frequencies, selectable on the high and low frequencies, and a switch enabling both shelving and peak/dip use. The two midrange bands also have hi-Q functions, allowing remarkably specific equalization.
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Do we know if the GB-84 and GB-81 both have the 'Q' switch?
And do we know if the GB-84 has a balanced line input control?
 
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