Good storage space my mp3's

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Another try of my band live

Well here's another try.

Please listen to my bands mp3. It's a analog board mix of a live performance. I've only used noise reduction and maximize vol.. My main question is; Do you think the noise reduction affects the music too much. I sampled the background noise to my clipboard and applied it to the music. What made it difficult was finding a section without any crowd noise.

Any other suggestions to make my editing of the recording better would be greatly appreciated.

Go to http://listeningroom.lycos.com/fan/search/Simple.phtml?Operation=3
Type rustyk in the search box.
The song title is "Treat Her Right"

If that address doesn't work go to http://listeningroom.lycos.com/ and scroll down to independent artists then click on browse independent artists. On that page type rustyk in the search box.

Thanks,
Rusty K

[Edited by Rusty K on 10-25-2000 at 16:31]
 
Man, the file was huge and it blows up Winamp :(... but WOW that's a damn good live mix (Windoze Bloated Media player was able to play it). Very solid recording.
 
pglewis,

Would you elaborate on the "blowing up Winamp"? I've gotten that response before and I'd like to know if I'm doing anything wrong. I'd love to be able to stream with Media Player like some of the guys here do.

I can't claim the mix for myself. He's an old Austin club pro that mixes about 21 bands a week so he knows his room. I generally hate board mixes but he's done about as good as one can.

So you did't think that I had monkeyed with it too much in editing?

Thanks for your time,
Rusty K
 
Pglewis,

I bet you downloaded the 8min slow blues number I uploaded yesterday. Yea that's one of ours but "Treat Her Right" was around 4min I think.

Rusty K
 
Tried out 'Treat Her Right' 5:05
For that style of music a little crowd noise is great!
Wouldn't you find it a little creepy if you played that cut at a gig and the crowd was dead quiet like they're listening to some baroque string quartet?
Blowin' up Winamp means that the application crashes when it attempts to play the file.
I'm thinkin' the problem is it's encoded at 48KHz. The server also did a dump and crash TWICE on that 9.54MB D/L. Luckily that's just a couple of minutes on cable.
That could've been all night for someone @56K.
It was worth the persistence generally and personally because I record a very similar band. I liked that guitar tone that was mimicing the blues harp. I thought you had two separate harmonica lines going until I listened a little closer.
You've got the vocals nailed. How are you micing it?
And what mics do you use on the rest of the band?
Nice tune. Pretty tasty recording.
As to panning, I'd move the bass opposite the lead guitar lines following what channel was carrying the lead. But like you mentioned, this was out of your hands. That's part of the reason I popped for my mixer. Tired of dragging my shit out to a gig to record and being at the mercy of some disinterested generally unpaid mixmeister.
 
drstawl,

How should I encode it instead 48Khz? Actually I'm working on streaming because of the download time for folks trying to listen.

Yes I love croud noise with live recording but I have great noise reduction that I can use by copying a section with no music and then applying that sampled/analyzed section of noise to the piece. The problem with that is; if there is crowd noise in that background it brings some extra frequencies in the analyzed sample which in turn sometimes makes things like cymbals sound a little weird. I notice it but I wanted other opinions. Since it didn't jump out and grab you that's a check for me in the O.K. column.

You dog you, you're on cable!

I much appreciate your input,
Rusty K
 
What's your encoder and what's the resolution of the original .wav file?
I did notice weirdness on the drums;
Otherwise an impressive NR based on what I think it might've sounded like. :)
Just couldn't put my finger on how to describe it;
And no- it didn't jump out at me.
 
drstawl,

I use lame to encode to mp3. I'm not sure what you mean by "resolution"?

Rusty K
 
Resolution:
I mean how many bits per sample (16, 24 etc.) and the sampling frequency (44,100 samples per second, 48,000 samples per second etc.)
Maybe you need to convert first, then encode?
 
Sorry I though that's what you meant but I wasn't sure.

Yes,16bit,stereo signed 44,100 samples

I encoded with lame at the default setting of:

Layer 3 48,000Hz,stereo,256kbps


By the way drstawl, your email notification/link doesn't work. Others seem to be so I don't know what the problem is.

Thanks much,
Rusty K
 
While not any "ah ha!" sort of information, I'd try adjusting away from the "default" setting when starting with 16/44.1 files. Try 44.1KHz, 192Kps. That's some pretty good quality and produces .mp3s alot smaller than the default setting does.
What I mean here is while the default transformation is by no means an impossible task in software, it's not typical to upsample when encoding in a compressed format.

[Edited by drstawl on 10-26-2000 at 08:09]
 
drstawl,

Thanks you very much for your help. One last question. Is it possible to re-convert my mp3's at this more desirable setting or must I first convert them back to wav.?

Oh yes, Am I correct in assuming that the settings I used would be ok if I were streaming the music?

Rusty K

[Edited by Rusty K on 10-26-2000 at 13:24]
 
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