Gibson Quality????

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I will say this- for the price of a top of the line Gibson, you'd think they would have someone with a clue set it up. It took me a couple of months to get my SG really right. I think the longer neck on the supreme is delicate, and it required frequent truss rod adjustments until it settled in.-Richie
 
My opinion: PRS and Gibson are both overpriced, but between the two I would get a PRS anyday. PRS QC seems to be very good and consistant, while Gibson is just the opposite. Every time I hit the music store I keep picking up Gibsons hoping to be pleasantly surprised, and it just hasn't happened in a long time...

I would definitely consider a Heritage or a Hamer (assuming you can find one) before PRS or Gibson.

Aaron
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i still do not understand, why you guys waste your time with these gibsons?

you should check out the Carvins.

bang for the buck.

I've played the high dollar Gibsons, and they dont have a thing, on the similar built Carvins.......
 
Lopp said:
Great prices!

The first time I bought a guitar over the internet I went to A-Plus after hearing nothing but good things about them here, and on other boards. Not only are the prices unbeatable but the guys who run the place know their shit and are really nice too. They'll set up the guitar to your liking before they ship it.
 
Aaron Cheney said:
My opinion: PRS and Gibson are both overpriced, but between the two I would get a PRS anyday. PRS QC seems to be very good and consistant, while Gibson is just the opposite. Every time I hit the music store I keep picking up Gibsons hoping to be pleasantly surprised, and it just hasn't happened in a long time...

I would definitely consider a Heritage or a Hamer (assuming you can find one) before PRS or Gibson.

 
Lambo said:
I know how a lot you you folks feel about Epiphone but like I said, I have had good luck with the Les Paul Custom.

I have an Epiphone SG. I bought it at Guitar Center. It was only $350 new. Most peolpe would say that's the worst combination out there, but I love it. Then I got a Jay Turser copy of an SG off of Ebay for $250. I love it more than the Epiphone. They both have rich warm tone. My point... cheap guitars can play and sound good. Price and looks aren't everything.
 
I am sorry, but a 350 dollar Epi is nowhere near the same class as a 2000 dollar Gibson. The Epi might be able to hold its own in proximity range 0-500, but after that you get into the situation of..........if they are not better at 2000 dollars, then they would not make them. Period.
 
LocusLarsen said:
I am sorry, but a 350 dollar Epi is nowhere near the same class as a 2000 dollar Gibson.

Did I say they were as good. No. I said that cheap guitars can sound good. Depends on the guitar.
 
...and the thread wasn't about Epiphone either, so............
 
If your guitar doesn't sound or feel the way you want it to, tweak it.....it's not rocket science......

Guitars are not these delicate one of a kind works of art that some would have you think....they're wood and strings.....duh.....


How many guitars have flown all over the world in freezing cargo holds and come out unscathed?....


"Oh, but, gibs, those rock stars flying all over the world have guitar techs to make everything all better after their guitars have been frozen, burned or have beer or semen spilled all over them....."

To answer that, may I be so bold as to ask if any of you people have access, oh, I don't know, say..... A COMPUTER????????:rolleyes:

Can you say "Search Engine"....particularly www.google.com .........

Gibson and Fender ship their guitars with totally fucked strings that are so light they float.......don't be afraid to change the stings to at least 10's.......

"But....but......gibs, changing to 10's will totally like screw up the neck and the intonation and everything and I will have to commit suicide and stuff....."


Wrong......9 times outta ten, changing from what passes as 9's (some, like the Gibson strings are not really 9's, I'm convinced they're 8's or something on the lower priced models) to 10's, or even real 9's won't drastically affect yer neck or intonation....but on the rare cases that it does, that's why a judicious use of Truss Rod Adjustment (stick that in yer search engine) will make it all better.......one way to make the transition easier is to tune up a note on all the old strings and leave it that way for about a day, and then start changing strings..... and don't ever take off all the strings at one time.....just take an old one off, put a new one on, etc.....makes it easier to tune, too, and when all the strings are on, then you can tune back down to standard tuning,,,,,,

From 9's to 11's or higher, yeah, you're gonna need some adjustment for sure....

I have both a faded "V" and a worn brown "SG" Special....they both were just terrible sounding, and it was the strings......the tuners are great, the necks are great, but the strings blew dead hyaenas.....put on 10's, (with no truss rod adjustment, I might add) using the above formula, and now I have two very inexpensive Gibson guitars that sound and play like their higher priced brethren.......maybe I'm just lucky...........?


But wait,.....I also have a mex Jimmy V strat that had stupid ass Fender "9's"..........changed them to 10's as well with no truss adjustment....wonderful sounding and playing guitar now.....

And a jap tele (yes, I admit, it's a paisley)......changed those so- called 9's out as well......again, great sound for el cheapo price......

And don't get bent because I buy the bargains, I also have 2 american tele's, one 1965, one 1978 or something, an '80s strat, and 2 Les Pauls, one is a standard, one a re-issue '57.......

Oh, and a Les Paul Studio that came with shit strings as well....fixed it nicely with higher gauge strings also......and the fit and finish on it is super....no binding, no problem.....:D


My point is, fit and finish on Gibsons (and most Fenders) is very good....it's the strings that suck.........

I have bought lots of my guitars online, and the trick to doing that is, go to a real store near you and play and touch the model you want....if you get a severe erection, don't buy it in the store, go online to a reputable site that has a RETURN POLICY..........order it, play it, do not do MAJOR tweaks to it (like spray painting yer name or something)
and send it back it you hate it within the allotted time the store gives you....you WILL have to pay the shipping to send it back, but hey, that's more than fucking fair.....you'll save bucks out yer butt if you love it and keep it, and only pay a few bucks to chunk it back.......

Guitars rule..........I'm addicted.....................gibs
 
LMAO @ Gibs!!!!!!!

Good post man and ssssso very true!

I just got a Les Paul DC, in the store it played like ass,.. but I knew it was because the set up and strings where shit.

As soon as I got it home I spent an hour tweaking it and now
it plays like an Anderson.
 
Yep!
I'm holding out for a pre 1982 DC,... I know ones about to show up on e-bay. I don't really like the ultra thin necks of the new models. I wish they gave you a choice.
 
Looks like the thread is dead, but...

I just had to put in my two-cents for the Ibanez Artist (I'm already hearing some of you moan). Before you start screaming about cheap Jap guitars... hear me out.

I love the Les Paul tone, look, style, etc. but not the price. In my quest for the Les Paul tone I came across the vintage Ibanez Artist. If you don't know the story, I'll give the short version (as I understand it):

During the 70's Gibson and Fender apparently let their quality diminish (some would argue they never returned to high quality as the other posts on this thread demonstrate). Since there was a niche in the market for high quality guitars, the people at Hoshino (parent company of Ibanez) started making "copy" guitars that sold for much cheaper and were as high or higher quality than their Gibson and Fender competitors.

Anyway, the point of the story is the Ibanez Artist is a Les Paul with a double cutaway. The only caveat is you need to get the "vintage" models. I own two artists (AR50) one was made in 1981 and the other in 1982. One, which I got on Ebay for $350 (practically stole it from the guy), is beatiful sunburst with tiger stripes and reminds me of Jimmy Page's classic LP. Apparently the new Artist "reissues" are made differently. I have a friend who owns a "reissue" and it is much lighter than both my 20+ pound "vintage" artists.

If somebody blindfolded you and made you play an Artist and a Les Paul, you wouldn't be able to tell the difference (except for the double cutaway). Solid mohagany body and excellent craftmanship give these guitars the classic Les Paul tone and feel. The sustain is awesome (the kind of sustain where you can play a note, go make a sandwich, come back... and the note is still ringing!). All this and you can get a really nice one on Ebay for less than $500.

That's my $.02
 
To each his own

You must be a strat guy.

I said I like the LP tone and feel, I didn't say you had to also.
 
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