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twonky
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So, uuuuuhhhh.....
I have been at this for about 4 years now, I have recorded my fair share of kick drums.
Some were really amazing drummers playing bad kits some were bad drummers playing amazing kits.
Either way I have literally never had a problem recording a kick drum. Even if it was a total piece of shit w/ no tone, I have been able to get a totally useable sound out of it.
Well, I am in the rocess of recording some songs for a band I am in and the drummer has two really nice Pearl fancy upper end kick drums that he uses for different things. The are maple-one is(I am pretty sure) 22x18 and one is like the size of a floor tom like maybe 20x18 or so?
Anyway this guy is a very good player, his forte is Jazz, he is a total jazz nerd. But this band has forced him into more of a rock situation. I digress...The kicks both sound really good when played in the room nice and full and pretty deep not as thunderous as one might want to hear in a "pop-rock" kind of thing but good sounding none the less.
The probem is two fold:
A) He has a "dynamic" kick style i.e. he is really quiet and then really loud on a few spots, his timing is consistant, his dynamics are not.This can be very tricky to deal with. Because the actual sound of the kick changes as he changes velocity of his foot ! So its not just dynamics that are the issue.
B) The kicks sound like those red balls sounded when bouced on the ground that you used to play kickball w/ in grade school. Especially id the there is no dampening. It just has no depth or rump shakin' and no punchy qualities at all
I am using a Beta 52, I have been putting condensers in front of the head to try and get the sound of the whole kick more.
So finally we ended up using a really junky old Whitehall kick that for some reason sounds like total Quaalud Thunder on tape and we're going to use that. But I still cant figure out why I cant get a good recorded sound out of two different kicks that todether cost about 2 grand!?
If anyone has any word of wisdom, please hook the Twonk up.
Thanks
I have been at this for about 4 years now, I have recorded my fair share of kick drums.
Some were really amazing drummers playing bad kits some were bad drummers playing amazing kits.
Either way I have literally never had a problem recording a kick drum. Even if it was a total piece of shit w/ no tone, I have been able to get a totally useable sound out of it.
Well, I am in the rocess of recording some songs for a band I am in and the drummer has two really nice Pearl fancy upper end kick drums that he uses for different things. The are maple-one is(I am pretty sure) 22x18 and one is like the size of a floor tom like maybe 20x18 or so?
Anyway this guy is a very good player, his forte is Jazz, he is a total jazz nerd. But this band has forced him into more of a rock situation. I digress...The kicks both sound really good when played in the room nice and full and pretty deep not as thunderous as one might want to hear in a "pop-rock" kind of thing but good sounding none the less.
The probem is two fold:
A) He has a "dynamic" kick style i.e. he is really quiet and then really loud on a few spots, his timing is consistant, his dynamics are not.This can be very tricky to deal with. Because the actual sound of the kick changes as he changes velocity of his foot ! So its not just dynamics that are the issue.
B) The kicks sound like those red balls sounded when bouced on the ground that you used to play kickball w/ in grade school. Especially id the there is no dampening. It just has no depth or rump shakin' and no punchy qualities at all
I am using a Beta 52, I have been putting condensers in front of the head to try and get the sound of the whole kick more.
So finally we ended up using a really junky old Whitehall kick that for some reason sounds like total Quaalud Thunder on tape and we're going to use that. But I still cant figure out why I cant get a good recorded sound out of two different kicks that todether cost about 2 grand!?
If anyone has any word of wisdom, please hook the Twonk up.
Thanks