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pandamonk said:
The RME QUADMIC for the four channel? What you think? and 2 Studio Projects VTB1s?
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How about an onyx mixer instead?
 
TravisinFlorida said:
How about an onyx mixer instead?
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Hmmm, don't really fancy a mixer. I duno why, i kinda just want all outboard, with a small control surface.
 
pandamonk said:
Hmmm, don't really fancy a mixer. I duno why, i kinda just want all outboard, with a small control surface.
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If you're going to be running 16 channels of audio in, a mixer isn't exactly a space hog.

I hear that the onyx pres and eqs are very good for the price.
 
TravisinFlorida said:
If you're going to be running 16 channels of audio in, a mixer isn't exactly a space hog.

I hear that the onyx pres and eqs are very good for the price.
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Yeah I've read that about them too. But i dunno, i've got what i want in my head, all i need to find it the gear to fit it. The only problems ive got are with a good 4 channel pre about £200, and a good 2 channel around £250. I've found the quadmic and vtb1, which I'm not sure about, but if they are good pres then they will be my top choice until i find something better, if i find something better.
 
What about the PRESONUS BLUETUBE DP instead of the 2 vtb1s?
 
Sooooo many choices, not enough knowledge/experience :p
 
the vtb1 is ok. if you're looking at 2 vtb1's, you might want to consider the dmp3 instead. 2 channels, a little cleaner sound, 1 less wall wart.

btw, why aren't you asking this stuff in the gear forums? you'd probably get more bites.
 
TravisinFlorida said:
the vtb1 is ok. if you're looking at 2 vtb1's, you might want to consider the dmp3 instead. 2 channels, a little cleaner sound, 1 less wall wart.

btw, why aren't you asking this stuff in the gear forums? you'd probably get more bites.
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I trust you guys in here. I'm out of my comfort zone anywhere but the building forum, lol. And my usual supplier, thomann, doesn't stock the dmp3. I suppose i could look elsewhere :D £105 at DV247. Would that be better than the presonus bluetube?
 
pandamonk said:
Look, I'm not saying that you guys are wrong. I just can't see how it can affect the sound. You obviously think that it does, so could you tell me how?

Thanks
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I'm no expert, but, it's actually in the name "conversion" and not being perfect it will effect the sound. your taking a signal the might be 34 or a 35 (arbitrary #'s) or anywhere in between and rounding it off plus you have the sample rate clock which might be close to 44.1 but not exactly... think back to the beginning of digital when you had that hard brittle sound..., I'm not saying that there will be some big wow difference, I my self would rather bet some really nice pre's and a 1010 as opposed to the rme and some ok pre's. of course you could get your 1010's modded...
 
ds21 said:
I'm no expert, but, it's actually in the name "conversion" and not being perfect it will effect the sound. your taking a signal the might be 34 or a 35 (arbitrary #'s) or anywhere in between and rounding it off plus you have the sample rate clock which might be close to 44.1 but not exactly... think back to the beginning of digital when you had that hard brittle sound..., I'm not saying that there will be some big wow difference, I my self would rather bet some really nice pre's and a 1010 as opposed to the rme and some ok pre's. of course you could get your 1010's modded...
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Yeah, I've foudn a way of having nice pres and the RME, or echo. By using the adats, i could get 16 ins cheaper than with 2 1010s. Thinking of getting the focusrite octropre le, connecting to echo via adat, then connecting the other pres in the line ins.

Cheers for the response though :D
 
pandamonk said:
Yeah I've read that about them too. But i dunno, i've got what i want in my head, all i need to find it the gear to fit it. The only problems ive got are with a good 4 channel pre about £200, and a good 2 channel around £250. I've found the quadmic and vtb1, which I'm not sure about, but if they are good pres then they will be my top choice until i find something better, if i find something better.
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There's no such thing as a good 2 channel pre around the £250 mark, although there is a lot that will get your sound captured for the price.

I noticed you say there you don't want a mixer. The Delta 1010 cards, in my eyes, are designed especialy for people with mixers in mind.....straight input output ad/da conversion with no bells and whistles, the pre's are either built into your console or you have the rack pre's and the outboard mixer to sort yout the monotering issues at the tracking stage and all them outputs on the deltas to feed your outboard mixer at meltdown time.

If that's not the way you're thinking then maybe looking as soundcards with built in pre's are the way to go. I picked the deltas cause I had the mixer I was happy with (Allen & Heath Saber Plus 24/16/16/2)..all I was looking for was straight conversion from AD to DA onthe way back out to the board.

Maybe this will give you a new angle to think from and hopefully another option on spending your money.
 
LemonTree said:
There's no such thing as a good 2 channel pre around the £250 mark, although there is a lot that will get your sound captured for the price.

I noticed you say there you don't want a mixer. The Delta 1010 cards, in my eyes, are designed especialy for people with mixers in mind.....straight input output ad/da conversion with no bells and whistles, the pre's are either built into your console or you have the rack pre's and the outboard mixer to sort yout the monotering issues at the tracking stage and all them outputs on the deltas to feed your outboard mixer at meltdown time.

If that's not the way you're thinking then maybe looking as soundcards with built in pre's are the way to go. I picked the deltas cause I had the mixer I was happy with (Allen & Heath Saber Plus 24/16/16/2)..all I was looking for was straight conversion from AD to DA onthe way back out to the board.

Maybe this will give you a new angle to think from and hopefully another option on spending your money.
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I plan on having 16 pres into the echo, or RME, then using the 16 outs to feed my stereo monitors, 5.1 system, and my 8 channel headphone amp. I don't feel that i need all the things in a mixer like, EQ etc. I'd rather control this in the box, and have a control surface. I always like the flexibility, ie if you don't like a pre you just sell it, and buy a new one, or if something breaks down that's not the whole system gone. Also the different sounds with different pres that you can get, etc. And it's all less clutter.

I thought you could get a decent 2 channel pre around £250. Thats about $250 a pre, I'm sure I've heard people on here say that you can get a decent pre for around that. Is the SPL Goldmike no good? what about the focusrite octopre le for £320, that's £40 a pre, if you don't count the price of ad/da convertion etc?
 
Does anyone know if you can get something like this for the DMP3? If not, is the presonus bluetube any good?
 
pandamonk said:
FUCKING PERFECT!!!! thanks :D:D:D:D
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I had the "honour" of working on a CP6800 years ago and it was an absolute delight! When I stumbled on that site and realised the guy was boxing them with a power supply for that price i couldn't believe it. As he says on the site, built in a shed in England, not thrown together in a foctory in china. If you get one and don't like it I'll take it off your hands for the price you paid, I cou;d use another two sleek channels like that.
 
pandamonk said:
Does anyone know if you can get something like this for the DMP3? If not, is the presonus bluetube any good?
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Unfortunately the dmp3 is a few milimeters taller than a single rack space, but get something other than the presonus they're kinda shitty. If you have the budget you might want to consider the presonus digiMax FS. I had my doubts about this pre until I heard it and it really isn't bad. They aren't great but I doubt they'll really hurt your sound. Plus you get the ADAT or 1/4" out option.
 
jonnyc said:
Unfortunately the dmp3 is a few milimeters taller than a single rack space, but get something other than the presonus they're kinda shitty. If you have the budget you might want to consider the presonus digiMax FS. I had my doubts about this pre until I heard it and it really isn't bad. They aren't great but I doubt they'll really hurt your sound. Plus you get the ADAT or 1/4" out option.
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That's a shame then. Thanks, I'll check out the digimax.

A little too expensive, and more channels than i need. Just need four. You used a RME Quadmic by any chance?
 
Try using a 2u shelf and lots of velcro for two DMP3 units together. I've been stacking smaller units that way for years and it works fine as long as you're not after a flight case grade installation. Velcro will make the units stay put.
 
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