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Hey everyone, new tune for the week. Need feedback on the mix, please. It's DropBox for now, until I get it to where I want it to be (I'm hoping the frequent members will take a listen and comment...?). Vocals are layered throughout the song. The only constant layer is the stereo panned phaser vox. It is coupled with a slightly distorted vox in the verse, and a more distorted vox in the chorus. The blatantly distorted take in the interlude is intentional. This is the first mix I've done using a sidechain on the guitar bus compressor (3.5:1) linked to the vox bus. I'm fearing the vox are now TOO loud in spots? What do you think? thanks!

(p.s. for those who have suggested it, I've left the compressor off the mix fader and also in the mastering session. Plus, I've put the reverb up on the vox for those who have commented on past mixes being too "dense" or "closet-sounding". Also, it is "stereo-widened" to 140%. Saturation knob on the entire mix, very slight @ 0.5 out of 10 max)

https://www.dropbox.com/s/u25exg73yl6cof4/--- Only She's ---.mp3?dl=0
 
The whole mix immediately sounds really compressed and dull. Pancake sausage, as they say.

I couldn't even say that it's a compressor that's doing it but the guitars are really flat despite not sounding overly distorted and the vocals sound very processed.
I can hear the bass guitar's low end but the notes have no audible attack so they aren't revealing their entire sound envelope to the listener.
 
I think the vocal effect is too strong for the song. It is distracting. Agree that the bass could have more HF and string sound.

It doesn't sound dull to my ears, but the drums and the bass guitar aren't speaking with one voice here.
 
hey, thanks a lot for the replies. I worked on it for a few hours tonight to try and brush up those vocal effects and clear up the bass. Moved the distortion down a few cranks on the amp sim as well. there was only a single compressor effecting the guitars, but i turned it down a fraction. I think that the "immediate" vibe of sameness came from me automating the intro guitars too much. I had them turned up in the beginning and completely forgot. I hope that solved any flatness issues. Please give another listen and tell me what you think.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ox8pqcv5fiotmv5/- Only She's -(2).mp3?dl=0

i really appreciate it. thanks a lot guys
 
I didn't check out the first mix, but listening to the last one on soundcloud now and I think it sounds pretty good. I like the vocal effects on this version at least. The panning of the drums, or at least the toms, seemed a bit extreme maybe (there was at least one part with a tom banging away off the the far right for a while), but I'm having to listen on phones now and that may be exaggerating the effect there. Nice energy to the performance.
 
hey thanks a lot for listening! The whole track was stereo-widened to about 140%, so everything on the fringes was really pushed to the outer edges. What's a more typical tom placement, spatially, for this genre? I am, obviously, still learning here. So anything that would help me make the music I'm creating more enjoyable to others is needed and appreciated.

I found that the higher I push the widening tool (upwards in percentage), the quieter the vocals get. So, about 135-140% is the max I could go there without losing too much of the vocals.

What was it about the vocal effects that you like? I guess it would be a good idea to ask what people like too, instead of always asking what they didn't like! Some friends of mine thought there was a touch too much distortion on the vox, that it had an impact on clarity. I've been working on how to get the distorted/phaser sound (ie: 30 Secs to Mars, Deftones) without sacrificing anything.
 
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