TerraMortim
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Steve Henningsgard
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yeah, newbie works fine.
Nice. I've definitely done that. Finished up the tracks, and he had a listen to them later and thought he was amazing. It's a shame I get no credit for my work!
Farview
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How much of a niche market could it be if there are three of us in the same thread?
mshilarious
Banned
I would like to hire you to do a gig with my 3 daughters. They all play violin in various degrees of stink, so I would like you to play viola. Also, since I don't have a cello, I will accompany you on my Epiphone Viola bass, which I have incongruously tuned as an octave cello
We will be covering the oeuvre of Vanilla Ice
SouthSIDE Glen
independentrecording.net
LOL...let's see, darker, heavier metals, emo and soft synthing. I think this entire freakin' BBS is in that niche market
(except maybe David K and myself 
.)Remember, in the Wiki world, there are only two kinds of music: Metal and Hip Hop, depending on whether you grew up on the red or blue side of the tracks. Of course from either side of that track there's only one kind of music, as the other isn't relevant.
Aaaaarggghhhh. I'm jonesing for some real world. Problem is, American Routes isn't on until later this evening,. Time for an online dose of The Whip. That should hold me over until then.
mshilarious
Banned
LOL...let's see, darker, heavier metals, emo and soft synthing. I think this entire freakin' BBS is in that niche market
DavidK uses lots of softsynths
TerraMortim
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TerraMortim
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LOL...let's see, darker, heavier metals, emo and soft synthing. I think this entire freakin' BBS is in that niche market
Remember, in the Wiki world, there are only two kinds of music: Metal and Hip Hop, depending on whether you grew up on the red or blue side of the tracks. Of course from either side of that track there's only one kind of music, as the other isn't relevant.
Aaaaarggghhhh. I'm jonesing for some real world. Problem is, American Routes isn't on until later this evening,. Time for an online dose of The Whip. That should hold me over until then.
I don't think that's so much true anymore, as it once might have been. Everyone is obsessed with 60s and 70s music in recording, it seems... heavy or dark music seems to be a bit of a minority in the world of recording... but then again, I'm in my own world all the time... who knows.
SouthSIDE Glen
independentrecording.net
That's true. I should have specified the difference: David still believes melody, harmony and groove are good things to includeDavidK uses lots of softsynths
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DavidK
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DavidK uses lots of softsynths
I dont think I have used more than 2 or 3 instances of softsynths EVER. I use hardware synths.
SouthSIDE Glen
independentrecording.net
I'm only basing that purely on what I see on this board. There are thirty questions on metal and hip-hop for every one question on all other genres put together. And half of those remaining ones are questions about Abbey Road and The Beatles.
I'm not saying there's anything intrinsically wrong with any of those genres (though I could do without Ringo
), it just seems to bode unwell for the musical gene pool if all anybody is interested in - even worse, all anybody knows - is Black Sabbath, Dr. Dre, or the Beatles. That's an awfully shallow pool(*strains of "Dueling Banjos" wafting in the background*) .G.
mshilarious
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I dont think I have used more than 2 or 3 instances of softsynths EVER. I use hardware synths.
My apologies!
Hey, if you're ever bored, try out my Organ Monkey MIDI multiplexer to your hardware synths, just for grins. I would like to know if it actually works in the hardware world!
Organ Monkey
DavidK
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My apologies!
Hey, if you're ever bored, try out my Organ Monkey MIDI multiplexer to your hardware synths, just for grins. I would like to know if it actually works in the hardware world!
Organ Monkey
How does it work? I have it all setup in Sonar, but I cant hear anything. What am I doing wrong?
mshilarious
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Well, it's a multiplexer, so it just issues MIDI note commands. Specifically, it's designed to take one note command, and generate many note commands on output.
So if you set your different hardware synths to different MIDI channels, you can use the app to trigger notes on each synth with the stop controls.
For example, you could set one synth to a flute patch, one to string, one to oboe, and one to organ. Assign those to receive MIDI channels 2-5.
Let's just use one MIDI controller to keep things simple--set that to output on channel 1, and set one of the virtual manuals, let's say Choir, to receive channel 1 for the full range (1-128). Turn all the other virtual manuals off.
Assign Stop, Unison, Mutation, and Mixture for the Choir manual to channels 2-5, respectively. Set intervals for the Mutation and Mixture stops.
Now, as you play a single note, it will be routed out to four synths, transposed as indicated.
But that's just the start. You can use velocity or control changes to trigger the stops on and off. So for example, you can set Mixture to Hold, and when you press the hold pedal, that synth will play. Personally I like the Velocity option a lot.
There is also an internal synth utility in the app, which is a really basic sine wave oscillator that is just intended for troubleshooting a setup. Turn the Audio switch to On, and you'll get audio output.
A lot of this functionality exists within a single hardware synth, but not in terms of creating multiple MIDI note command output (at least I don't think so, but I don't have any hardware synths anyway). Since I wrote this to drive a real physical pipe organ, I needed that.
Someday my organ will actually get built . . .
TerraMortim
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I'm only basing that purely on what I see on this board. There are thirty questions on metal and hip-hop for every one question on all other genres put together. And half of those remaining ones are questions about Abbey Road and The Beatles.
I'm not saying there's anything intrinsically wrong with any of those genres (though I could do without Ringo
G.
yeah, that's true. It could be a bit regional as well...around here there aren't very many people who pay attention to metal in the audio community. My short stint in attending a recording school, there was probably 2 other people interested in heavy music in the entire school... But the school could have been renamed Beatles appreciation school, as people were unnaturally obsessed with the "fab four." I just don't get people who worship the beatles, they were just a pop rock band that got lucky enough to make it huge for a long time, and they wrote some decent catchy tunes that people like... why does that constitute them as "the best band on earth"? I don't hate them, but I can't see how anything they do is any more clever than half of the similarly produced music on the market today or then for that matter. Probably one of the most overrated bands in all history is more like it.
Around here people are obsessed with that, or fucking hippie jam band music... any time I meet someone who does audio and they show me what they work on, it's almost always filled with acoustic guitars, djimbes, whiney vocals, and lyrics about saving the cockroaches from the big bad satanic corporations, or planting trees like they johnny god damn appleseed or something. There was one guy that actually wrote what sounded like a love song to some cows, practically from the pages of a peta2 propaganda book, about how we're just like the nazis, because we're committing genocide on all the cows we eat.. Fucking vancouver hippies.. I want to put a sharpened steel bumper on my car and start driving on the sidewalk and plow down those hypocritical (hippiecrital?) self important PC losers, kind of similar to in South Park when they had that huge hippie grinder thing that they were plowing all the hippies down with at the national hippie jamfest. (Can't you tell I love hippies?)
punkin
Univalve & Avatar Speaks
I've had plenty of first timer, noobs and kids. In fact that's the heart of what I do here and frankly, that's the appeal for me.
I don't actually "send them home" but I will take a few raw tracks, play them back and help them to realize the difference from what they hear while playing vs what we hear while they're playing. It's a gentle thing for sure.
Lets face it,...it's just as good for me as it is for them if their recording sounds good.
Did some of that this afternoon. Oh THANK GOD it's over! Two drummers doing a "speed metal dual". Something they've worked up for a high-school talent thing coming up. A couple of high-schoolers both brought their own kits. TWO drumsets in the same room! 4 kick drums, 9 toms 3 snares and more cymbals that I really care to think about.
I digress...bottom line...I offered to send click tracks but both refused. They were sure that their little solo break was tight. I recorded several takes and in the end, during the play back, they realized that the tempo was picking up and was way out there at the end of the performance. They agreed to try the click track but things went to hell after that. Neither were used to playing with a metronome.
They paid for the pizza and we played around for several hours and called it a wash. They agreed that they needed to revisit the plan and would come back at a later date. I handed them a disk on the way out.
Both were pretty badly beaten back but not discouraged. It was for the best.
I don't actually "send them home" but I will take a few raw tracks, play them back and help them to realize the difference from what they hear while playing vs what we hear while they're playing. It's a gentle thing for sure.
Lets face it,...it's just as good for me as it is for them if their recording sounds good.
Did some of that this afternoon. Oh THANK GOD it's over! Two drummers doing a "speed metal dual". Something they've worked up for a high-school talent thing coming up. A couple of high-schoolers both brought their own kits. TWO drumsets in the same room! 4 kick drums, 9 toms 3 snares and more cymbals that I really care to think about.
I digress...bottom line...I offered to send click tracks but both refused. They were sure that their little solo break was tight. I recorded several takes and in the end, during the play back, they realized that the tempo was picking up and was way out there at the end of the performance. They agreed to try the click track but things went to hell after that. Neither were used to playing with a metronome.
They paid for the pizza and we played around for several hours and called it a wash. They agreed that they needed to revisit the plan and would come back at a later date. I handed them a disk on the way out.
Both were pretty badly beaten back but not discouraged. It was for the best.
acidrock
GO PACKERS!
I would say that historicaly that's when the recording studio stopped just capturing a performance with recording and actually started to influence the sound of the finished product.It was probably also the point were lots of songs couldn't be reproduced live at least with just the members of the band.In other words that's when the studio regularly became a member of the band.
The fact that a music that was recorded forty years ago still stacks up against todays music is a testament to the talents of all involved with the Beatles recording.
Oh and btw
I'm a hobbyist who only records himself.After listening to a recording of myself I sent myself home to work on my chops,but I realized I was home already.
If the CD turns out bad I might not want to put my name on it.
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mrface2112
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yes, i sent one guy home to practice. he couldn't play a song through without saying "hang on....wait a minute.....ok" and then starting back up from where he stopped. he expected me to edit the shit all together for him and construct things out of songs i'd never heard before (they were his originals, and all acoustic guitar "compositions").
uhhhhhhhhhhh
i said "tell ya what.....you need to either work these out better before you come back the next time, or i can burn you a rough mix and you can comp them together yourself, b/c i have no idea where to start".
he opted for "burn me the rough mix". i gave him both audio and data cds of the session.
see, i wasn't getting paid for the session, it was a favor to him.....and i certainly didn't have the spare time to try to comp together crap he couldn't play right.
i talk to him on a regular basis and we've never talked about him coming back out OR if he ever did anything with that stuff......and it's been a couple years now.
cheers,
wade
uhhhhhhhhhhh
i said "tell ya what.....you need to either work these out better before you come back the next time, or i can burn you a rough mix and you can comp them together yourself, b/c i have no idea where to start".
he opted for "burn me the rough mix". i gave him both audio and data cds of the session.
see, i wasn't getting paid for the session, it was a favor to him.....and i certainly didn't have the spare time to try to comp together crap he couldn't play right.
i talk to him on a regular basis and we've never talked about him coming back out OR if he ever did anything with that stuff......and it's been a couple years now.
cheers,
wade
giraffe
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kids like metal and rap, and are desolving and reforming bands all the time.
i had this one metal band i used to record a lot (like a year ago), now from that one band i have a metal band, a pop emo band, and a screamo band that i record a lot. (thats just from that one band)
it's like the chaos band theory around here.
