Dongle Crack for SX 2

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ok all done.
yeah...ive been to a few other places like this one and i gotta say...
there isnt a more devisive topic in these places than that of "PIRACY".
id love to stick around n watch.....

but i gotta get back to work to pay off my over priced waves plug ins.

GOODBYE
 
Mmmm I think people are missing the point here...

if they guy managed to get a hack and keep a lid on it ..then what ever...its up to him

but the fact he has come out and asked for a free copy when most people here played good money for it....is STUPID, RUDE and IGNORANT

I used to have a hacked copy ...learnt how to use it and then bought SE..then SL and in a coupled weeks I will have SX...

I felt if it was going to be apart of my lively hood I wanted to know if something is wrong then I can ask why and so on....

I managed to save the cash to get it buy staying in 24/7 f**king around on it....then I got SL..and now my hard work has got my band money from Universal...and I can upgrade to SX now

so yes it started as a hack...then a cheep copy of Cubase....and now I have the lot...and always had the intention of paying for it.

But I didn't go round bragging about it...in fact when I got SE..I was proud as could be!

Although I must say it would be nice to be able to load my Cubase on our drummers Apple laptop and not have to carry my D Key with me all the time! :)
 
my thoughts exactly!

Hector_Osbert said:
Out of all the assholey inane time wasting responses (why write if you can't help?)...I think this was the most retarded, cause this bastich thinks that just cause I don't feel like paying extortionist prices to make my music, I don't know shit about it. I'm a fucking music production student and I need it at home to fucking WORK...isn't it enough I pay for my tuition fees which allows my college to get the licence for it in the first place? And for the bum who told my to manage my priorities and get a job...what makes you think I'm not busting my ass off already just to pay my rent? I really resent all you critics and judges of character based on a simple request for your help...so much for community spirit. I seemed to think I had found a site where a musician's budget would be considered...especially as we're dealing with home setups. But then I found all you self righteous pricks who are burnt cause mommy and daddy couldn't afford to buy me a toy and I had to make do with my resources by ripping off a giant faceless corporation who wouldn't even piss on your copies of Cubase if they were on fire. And as a closer, I cracked it anyway, pretty simple to do really. All that formatting and deleting of dll files really worked (only when done together simultaneously). :p
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Can you explain in detail to me how u cracked yours so i can do it too?
 
What is a dongle on a software program?

It must be due to where I`m from......
 
Toki987 said:
What is a dongle on a software program?

It must be due to where I`m from......
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A dongle (pronounced DONG-uhl) is a mechanism for ensuring that only authorized users can copy or use specific software applications, especially very expensive programs. Common mechanisms include a hardware key that plugs into a parallel or serial port on a computer and that a software application accesses for verification before continuing to run; special key diskettes accessed in a similar manner; and registration numbers that are loaded into some form of ROM (read-only memory) at the factory or during system setup.
If more than one application requires a dongle, multiple dongles can be daisy-chained together from the same port. Dongles are not in frequent use partly because enterprises don't like to have a serial or parallel port preempted for this use.


BTW Helraiza, if that was a serious question, you might as well leave now.....
People here don't appreciate cracked software.
 
Hector_Osbert said:
"I am a bell end, I like to take it up the batty, no, I do, it feel really nice! I used to be a girl once, honest, ask my mum!"
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Yes I know, you are a bit messed up!
 
Mommy and daddy didn't buy ANY of my toys. I worked my ass off, built my studio, bought my gear, and produced work that brought me more work so that once again I could buy more gear and the cycle has continued for years now.

People here are budget conscious. The difference is that for some of us, being budget conscious means buying Cubase SE instead of Nuendo. I guess for some others being "budget conscious" means stealing software. If i go to a really expensive flight school that doesn't mean I can go out and steal a plane so I can practice at home. I guess now I know why the music industry is "suffering" since there are so many people who can't understand that their actions can and do affect others.

Botoom line, I don't care how much rent you pay, how much your tuition is, how much time you do or don't have, how much you THINK you need software at home so you can "work". Also, if a person is adamant about defending and justifying their theft of software (or anything else for tht matter), then by all means I feel like I have the right to make a judgement about that persons character. Those people will never work for me at my studio, at my pro audio company or anywhere else for that matter.

If anyone "resents" me for that or finds me "Self Righteous" fro feeling that way, fine. Its that kind of thinking though that kepps my studio booked, and my show schedule full.
 
It is one thing to use your resources to acquire software on a try-before-you-buy basis. This evens the playing field. People are rooked by software companies all the time. Think of all the people who paid for Windows ME. . .

It is quite another issue if you acquire software, then use it extensively, sell your services or creations made possible by said software, then never pay for it. This is unethical in every way.

I believe it is important to view most issues in shades of gray, not black and white. It seems that many people view users of hacked warez in the same light as violent criminals, drug dealers, or white collar criminals. This is an error in recognizing differences in magnitude.

If you own a recording studio and you steal Cubase, you are a white collar criminal.

If you play with Cubase as a hobby, you are NOT a criminal, just a little bit sorry.
 
Arceri said:
It is one thing to use your resources to acquire software on a try-before-you-buy basis. This evens the playing field. People are rooked by software companies all the time. Think of all the people who paid for Windows ME. . .

It is quite another issue if you acquire software, then use it extensively, sell your services or creations made possible by said software, then never pay for it. This is unethical in every way.

I believe it is important to view most issues in shades of gray, not black and white. It seems that many people view users of hacked warez in the same light as violent criminals, drug dealers, or white collar criminals. This is an error in recognizing differences in magnitude.

If you own a recording studio and you steal Cubase, you are a white collar criminal.

If you play with Cubase as a hobby, you are NOT a criminal, just a little bit sorry.
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.......... :rolleyes: ...........
 
Arceri said:
It is one thing to use your resources to acquire software on a try-before-you-buy basis. This evens the playing field. People are rooked by software companies all the time. Think of all the people who paid for Windows ME. . .
It is quite another issue if you acquire software, then use it extensively, sell your services or creations made possible by said software, then never pay for it. This is unethical in every way.

If you own a recording studio and you steal Cubase, you are a white collar criminal.

If you play with Cubase as a hobby, you are NOT a criminal, just a little bit sorry.
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Ok, I'm thinking about the people rooked that bought Windows ME. I'm even thinking that people buying windows at all are being rooked because they have to pay more because of the criminals pirating the software and selling it for $29 a copy or giving it away with new computers.

I'm also thinking that you've flipped your lid thinking that the criminal intent is different when stealing something based on how you plan to use it. You must be the makings of a twenty first century Robin Hood maybe?
 
Arceri said:
If you own a recording studio and you steal Cubase, you are a white collar criminal.

If you play with Cubase as a hobby, you are NOT a criminal, just a little bit sorry.
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Your very very close on this one, but actually the person would be a criminal with a hobby. See you just remove the "NOT" and....

Oh nevermind :rolleyes: You won't listen anyways. *sigh*
 
So according to this whole white collar grey area thing, a lot of doors have opened for me. Does this mean that as long as I kill people farily randomly, without making a profit, and just as a hobby that its better than making a lucritive living killing people?

Personally, I feel better about a person who steals the software, makes a living with it and acknowledges the fact that its wrong than a person who tries to minimize it and pretend that its OK, and even worse, justifiable. At least I know whats going on with the first person, but the second person I will always have to worry about what they will or won't do.

I would much rather know where the evil is in this world than live my life wondering and worrying about it.
 
Wow.. i actually read 6 out of 11 pages of posts.

Took me an hour! lol

A couple of things to stir it up:

1) Legally, there should be no tax on a license. Tax is, by part of its very definition, outside of this domain (licenses). So, when the government taxes your software (license, right?), then taxation brings it into the domain of a product (ownership, not license).

Now, what we have here is mixed signals. It can only be one or the other.

If people pay taxes on software then taxes mean, truly, product ownership, and when people own something it is there's to do with as they please.

This bit of irritating truth in the law bothered the lawmakers AND the software people because of this completely irreconcilabe legal situation. So then, the gov't attempted to state that when people paid $900 for a copy of Adobe Photoshop (or $90 for a utility, regardless)... that the gov't was actually assessing a tax on the physical owner's manual (book) that came with the software.

For intellectuals high and low, this was a lot of mumbo jumbo and was put to the cemetary after not much argument (i.e. what is the main thing being purchased, prime use, etc.)

In any case, it did not "add up" because the book that was included with the software did not cost $900 (and the gov't was taxing the cost of the book as though it cost $900).

Then, it got worse:

Many software companies had learned to include the manual on the actual CD and in the Help files, nullifying further the need for a book.

It just is not supposed to be both ways. Either you own the product (which is why you paid a tax), or you licensed the software and it's up to the company to handle their taxes appropriately for licensing and you do NOT own the product.

Cannot be both ways.

Since it appears to be both ways (when it cannot be?)... this only adds to the mess, confusion, and mixed signals.

2) I liked some of what Codmate wrote regarding the difference in intellectual property vs. physical property. Unfortunate that people do not understand the distinction, and how it applies.

3) Another erroneous argument that was put forth was the one that stated "a candy bar is less of a crime than that of stealing a $100,000 which is why the law makes a distinction between misdemeanors and felonies."

To whom? To some, the candy bar might be their last supper while the CEO's of many many companies would not be affected much at all by the loss of a seemingly great sum of money. The point should be very clear, which brings me to my last point:

4) It should be very clear. :)
 
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You have me totally confused with #1, are you saying that there is a specific tax on all software programs that the government impliments as a liscencing tax?

#4 I agree with you on...it would be nice if everyone were clear about software and music theft.

#3, the answer to your question of "to whom?" is : to the law that our civilized society has written up based on experiences that go back over 2000 years.

You steal a candy bar, it is a misdimeanor and you get a fine and a slap on the wrist. You steal $100k and it's a felony and your looking at some jail time. Now within the parameters of the law, a judge may look at the circumstances surrounding your crime and either reduce, or increase your penalty, but only within the set guidelines of the penal code that your crime falls in, oftentimes regardless of how affected the victem is.

In other words, if you kill a homeless man who has no family and has a criminal record and is basically a leech on society, no judge or jury is going to say "You know, you really didn't affect anybody other than the victem...as a matter of a fact you did society a favor! Please go home with our thanks.". It just won't happen. You will be convicted of your crime and will face the penalty that that particular crime carries.

Thanks for taking the time to read all this and participate and if you can explain #1 a little further I would be interested.
 
maybe #3 needed greater clarity

With regard to #3, it started out with a remark that stealing $100,000 is a worse crime than stealing a candy bar.... to which my "playing the devil's advocate" for the sake of argument's response was simply to make one realize that that can be an erroneous statement.

I'm fully aware of the law, the statutes, and how society treats them, but the original remark (above) was not qualified that way, and in fact was trying to make a case that stealing the greater sum of money was morally worse. Is it? Actually, it depends on various factors, which was my whole point. The guy with very little will be greatly wronged by taking away his last dollar, as opposed to the very rich who lose another $100,000. Read up on "Law of diminishing returns" to understand further, if need be.

With regard to #1... what did you miss? What don't you understand? Here, maybe this will help you in your understanding as to why people are confused and have varying feelings and attitudes about software:

a) When you lease an apartment from a landlord, do you pay property tax on your leased apartment at the end of the year?

or

b) When you license your car, do you own those government plates, and can do with them as you please?

or

c) When you buy something at the store (and pay sales tax on it), don't you have full ownership to the product (or service) you bought, and it is yours to do with as you please? [ * one exception - see below ;) ]

or

d) When you pay a land owner a license fee to use his land for a particular use, or time period, do you also pay the government a tax?

The answers are always the same: No, No, Yes, and No.

* So... now that you are being educated on some basics of law, licensing, ownership and taxation, are you starting to feel screwed by "somebody" because you pay taxes on the software you bought, but apparently are not the owner?

All this is not to argue for or against stealing, obviously. It is to show the/a problem with software "use or ownership" at its root.

Respectfully,

Todd
 
I understood the position you were taking regarding who is hurt worse, my point is, we should not to color thieving in a light of 'well this will hurt person "a" this much, and this will hurt person "b" this much. That leads to a selfish Robin Hood pseudo mentality of "steal from the rich and give to ME!" Stealing is stealing and is wrong in all lights. In addition, I would venture that most people who are stealing software and viewing it as a victemless crime, don't know the financial condition of the company they are stealing from, which in your devils advocate analogy would be needed to assess the true damage of their crime. They could be taking the proverbial "candy bar from a starving family" as there are many software companies who are small businesses and they need every dollar they can earn to further develop, and support their products. Not everyone is a Microsoft giant.

Actually, the answer to your a, b, c, and d is : no, no, no, and no.

First off, I didn't pay sales tax on my software, I live in a state that doesn't have it. Secondly, sales tax does not associate itself in any way regarding how you can use a product that you buy. It is simply a government tool of getting funds to support the government by charging a set percentage tax on certain products. What does affect how we can use what we buy is copyright laws and licensing agreements, and those are set by the companies and the people who hold the copyright to their product, and/or set up a license of agreed use.

The thing is, if you don't agree with a license agreement that says you can't copy and distribute for sale, or for free, their product, then you have the right NOT to buy the product. A copyright is held by the person who owns the rights to their property, a license is written by the company who creates the programs. The only involvment the government has was creating laws that stealing and /or copying the above mentioned property is a crime, and this is nothing new, dating back to the beginnings of (for those of us in the USA) our country if I am not mistaken.
 
i can't believe this thread is still alive... somebody is secretly using artificial life support...
i wonder if the pirateware users of this forum will be just as supportive of the thief, the next time someone steals their car or breaks into their homes... i mean... "the thieves are just poor underfunded people who cannot afford expensive cars and shit... we should support them instead of all this stupid talk about "law" and shit..."
somehow i doubt it though... hypocrasy is only obvious to the bystander.
 
The Return Of Hectic Hector

Well aloha there chums, its lovely to see you people give such a damn. I must admit I am quite awed at the reaction I got to what I initially thought was a harmless request - silly me.
I really couldn't give a crap about the endless debating that's been going here, the only tiny thing that bothers me is that a lot of you guys automatically assume that I don't know diddle about how to make music, be it with or without software, and that I must be some sort of user-unfriendly pirate/bandit. I don't really know why I feel I have to prove myself to a bunch of apes, I guess it must make me a bit of a monkey myself, but here goes; to those of you who read Computer Music magazine (not sure if it gets to the US but I know the Brits can definately get a hold of it), I got me a little spot as one of the reader demos of the month, and one of my tunes is featured on the cd. Now I know it ain't exactly rock star status, but it should quieten anyone who thinks along the lines of 'he stole it therefore he don't know how to do anything else but be unproductive towards society'.
Now how 'bout the rest of ya get on with your lives???
 
Hector_Osbert said:
to those of you who read Computer Music magazine (not sure if it gets to the US but I know the Brits can definately get a hold of it), I got me a little spot as one of the reader demos of the month, and one of my tunes is featured on the cd. Now I know it ain't exactly rock star status, but it should quieten anyone who thinks along the lines of 'he stole it therefore he don't know how to do anything else but be unproductive towards society'.
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Who gives a flying fuck??????? Getting reviewed in a user-tapes section of a mag is about as indicative as posting in MP3 clinics on websites such as this one...... big deal........ :rolleyes:

Either way, it still doesn't give you license to steal s/w, asshole.........
 
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