Does anyone write christian based songs?

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Hey George....should we categorize " elevator music" as "vertical"??? 'scuse me, I'm just working on my post count. lol
writeon...chazba
 
chazba said:
Hey George....should we categorize " elevator music" as "vertical"??? 'scuse me, I'm just working on my post count. lol
writeon...chazba

Hey man, thats a great idea. When I go up in an elevator I'll start singing a praise song. But what do I do when it goes down again.......hmmm. I know! I'll start repenting for being a backslider! :D

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George
 
C.C. Faves??

Anybody else into Phillips,Craig and Dean?? Just got there "RESTORATION" album as an early Christmas present. Lots of great memorable songs and super production as always.
Also I want to recommend an album by LORD SONG "DAY THREE"
Really excellent Southern Gospel with a very hip contempo edge to it. What voices!!! I have never reviewed an album in this forum but I think these people deserve notice.
writeon...chazba
 
Who knows of a good source for contemporary music from a few years back?
There's some stuff I'm looking for, but not sure of titles or artists.
Here's a few lyics. If you know the title or who did the song, lay it on me.

"..in a motorcade of Cadillacs, that is not coming back."

"Where there is faith, there is a peace calling"

"We are soldiers again, in the army of the Lord"

"When the life of a tree comes first"

I know Twila Paris did "The Warrior is a Child", but there's a version that has a male backup that I've not been able to find anywhere. Anybody knopw what album this was on?

BTW- favorite ispirational tune: "Make His Praise Glorious"
 
Hi All,

I have not been to this thread for a month or two and have been reading catch-up.

Tucci's comments raised some intersting food for thought as well as how the use of music in scripture should define "appropriate use" of music to Christians and I had a few thoughts.

There seems to be two basis for appreciating and enjoying music. Those who find it an artistic pursuit and those who find it mostly usefull for as a form of entertainment.

To me persuing it for artistic appreciation and expression is a higher calling and fits more in line with being more like our creator by being creative as He is. He creates beautifull masterpieces of every shape and form. To not at least aspire toward this end and simply use music as entertainment to me is "casting your pearls before swine". But that is the catch! To me music has such potential to be something so valuable (ie a pearl) but to many other people reguardless of spiritual beliefs it is simply a common screwdriver in a tool box of grimy unorganized tools that is pulled out when it meets a need and then put away.

My wife however simply likes music for entertainment (outside of a church worship experience anyway) and likes very overproduced un-original cotton candy fluff music because it entertains her...she is not looking for inspiration from music but she finds inspiration elsewhere.

These two "schools of thought" affect what we want and expect from music. Like Tucci I am usually very disapointed by most comercial CCM because it is IMHO very unoriginal, uncreative, lacking in passion and falls far short of its potential. Why are Christians following the popular "cutting edge" secular music styles (several years behind) instead of leading the way in creativity, passion and quality. We should be the pacesetters. If there is anything more pathetic than the blind leading the blind would it not be the seeing following the blind? There is even a band that is played on K-Love radio regularly called the Apologetics that do nothing but but record dead straight copies of secular hits but rewrite the lyrics with christian ones wich IMHO is
ultimate example of everything that is wrong in the CCM industry today.

But some are called to be evangelist, others Prophets, Teachers.........and how can I argue with some one who is called and gifted in the area of Evangelism and effectively uses music (no matter how cheesy) as a tool to communicate the gospel to someone who needs to hear it. How can I fault a person who enjoys heavy metal or punk complete with screaming vocals I can't possibly understand, that feel encouraged by a Chrisitan band that uses that style of music?

I find myself in a dilema that I can only reconcile with my original premise that what we expect from music; be it simple entertainment and nothing more or inspiration that often also provides some enteriantment value is foundational in how we percieve what is good. I know God created music and it can be used for good and evil but I challenge anyone (including myself) to say any particular style is not appopriate for God to use. I know the devil did not and can not create anything himself...he can only distort, twist or poision the good things God has created for his own evil intent.

So if God wants to use a heavy metal guitarist who has a beatifull dead mint 1964 pre-CBS Strat who cant' play in tune or in key and only knows two power chords to save his life as a rusty screw driver to reach people who desperately need to know God can I really tell Him He is doing it all wrong?

I don't think I would go there... but I might ask if I could trade my $50 pawn shop special for the guys Strat because he probably wouldn't know the difference anyway.

:D
 
Hi everyone,
I started working on a song about 6 months ago,got side tracked as usual,and was wondering if any of you guys would like to help me with it?
It's called The Road Less Traveled.
It's loosely based on Psalm 107 ,and the title is from the Robert Frost poem.

My wife and I like to go to Central Park,before sept.11th,and walk around Mannhattan.
One day I started thinking about all the young people who either run away or come here to make it,and find out the hard way that it's no cakewalk.
That’s what the song is about.
I could use help with the words and melody,I can post the melody on my website if anyones interested.

Verse;
Runnin wild,runnin high and free/Never lookin back to see/Where you've been/Where your gonna
Be/When all your bridges burn
Verse
All alone,no one there to see/The lonely hours/On your own
Refrain
Tears fallin down like rain/Hurt from the pain
Verse
Memories caress and enfold you/Of things that will never be again/Find your way the road calls ahead/Down the path tis less tread
Verse
Hear His call/Loving arms around you/You'll never be alone again
Refrain
Love coming down like rain/Heals all the pain/Know it'll never be the same/Take the chance and live again
Chorus
Take the road/Take the road less travelled/You'll never lose your way again
Instrumental
Verse
Now your home/Flyin high and free /Live the life that's meant to be
Verse
Don't look back/The past is far behind/Look around I'm sure you'll see
Refrain
Tears fallin down like rain/Achin from the pain
Verse
Share your love/broken hearts will see/where youv'e been/Where your gonna be
Refrain
Love fallin down like rain/heals all the pain/Know it can never be the same/Take the chance and live again
Chorus
Take the road,take the road less traveled/You'll never lose your way again

I could use any help you guys can offer,grammer,structure ect.

Thanks,
Pete
 
Wow a whole week and nobody has posted,I thought this was a hot thread.

I hope it's not because my song is lousy and no one wants to insult me by telling me or ignoring my post and starting something else.

Believe me it's cool!

The song is just a very rough draft,I changed most of the words already.
I just posted it to get any possible ideas on the overall structure of it.

I'd hate to see this thread die.

Anyway I was wondering if anyone has any links to songwriting sites?Something to help with the process.

Thanks,
Pete
 
Muzeman,

I don't know about everyone else but I dont usually get involved in other peoples writing projects unless I allready have a working relationship with someone and I am involved in seeing it through to its conclusion in a recording or preformance.

Also I have a really hard time with writing the lyrics seperate from the music and melody. While I have read some poetry for enjoyment and for getting a feel of writing with a flow and poetic cadence I just don't sit down and write words without specific music in mind.

There were several references earlier in this thread on some other forums that are specifically dedicated to christian Music, Worship and I believe one of them that had a christian guitar thread I looked at also had a songwriting thread.

This thread tends to have several different subjects going at one time such as some athiest/agnostic posts regaurding why this thread exists and why we believe in God, Chrisitanity versus religion, my last post regaurding what is approptiate use of music for christians, and several lyric posts for critique and response.

I was hoping to hear more response on my last post also but I am wondering if it was too deep or more likely that we are having multiple different discussions on the same thread wich makes it difficult to sustain an ongoing conversation.
George seems to post the most since starting this thread but his job takes him away from being able to post for a week or two at a time.

We may need to start some new threads that address more specific topics within christian songwriting such as those wanting group effort in writing actual songs and those interested in discussing the theology or philophy of christian music and its interaction with the church, christian community and the world at large.

Anyone else out there who has any input on Muzeman's project or the otherdiscussion that also seems to have fizzled. I thought there was some good food for thought?
 
Muzeman,
Sorry about the lack of replies. Between job, holidays, and posting at a new christian musicians forum, I haven't been visiting here as much lately. I try not to be the one to keep a thread going that I started, just to keep it going. If there is still any worthwhile discusion left on the subject by others I'm willing to keep talking. Scooter B is right about the thread becoming muti-topic. The reason I started the thread was simply to know if there were any others that wrote songs from the same subject matter as I did, and to discuss how and why we do it. Simply sharing ideas on the subject of writing christian songs. If you don't mind some of the negative posts that showed up from time to time, there is still some pretty good stuff in here that can be useful.

I like the theme of your song "A Road Less Traveled". As for the phrasing and structure of the song, I can't give you much feedback in that without the music. Keep in mind that there isn't any set formula for writing a song. I may write a song one way and you may rather write it another way. Both are correct. There are basic things such as phrasing and basic structure, but even that isn't chiseled in stone.

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George
 
Hello Scooter B,

Again I apologize for my tardiness.

I read your posts. You had some intresting thoughts. I have been involved in music all of my life. Played and sung my first song at the age of 9. I did not become a christian until 1983. But even before that music was a soul thing for me. I'm talking about the mind, will, and emotions soul thing. I had to play like most people needed to breathe. After playing (entertaining) in the night clubs for many years, the passion I had for music began to fade. After becoming a christian, almost immediately the passion returned, white hot. Even in all those years in the clubs, I was told I had a God given talent. Truer words had never been spoken. I played music for years but was never able to write a song worth the paper it was on until I got saved.

There is a difference about what I do now, in the since of my playing and writing. What I do now is about using music to reach back from where I came and cause others that are atill there to contemplate, maybe even for their first time, their relationship with God. So I guess it might be considered evangelizing. All I know is that before the passion for music was all about me. How it inspired or impressed me. Now that white hot passion I spoke of, is all about Him (Christ). I've written songs that I truely believe that I just happened to be the one holding the pen for something God wanted to do. I know that may sound a bit squirrelly, but it's the truth.

There is a lot of christian music out there. Some for intertainment, some for inspiration and worship, and some to reach out. Nothing wrong with any of them. I just know that I'm called to the reaching out part.

A lot of times while out watering and planting with the group I play with, you don't always get to see the end fruit of what you put your heart into. Its God that brings the increase. Our job is just to go out planting and watering. So we do. But on several occasions we have heard testimonies from others of how our songs had help to bring a change in someone else's life. Which encourages you to work even harder. I guess I'm living proof that God will take the foolish things of the world to confound the wise.

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George
 
getuhgrip said:
Who knows of a good source for contemporary music from a few years back?
There's some stuff I'm looking for, but not sure of titles or artists.
Here's a few lyics. If you know the title or who did the song, lay it on me.

"..in a motorcade of Cadillacs, that is not coming back."

"Where there is faith, there is a peace calling"

"We are soldiers again, in the army of the Lord"

"When the life of a tree comes first"

I know Twila Paris did "The Warrior is a Child", but there's a version that has a male backup that I've not been able to find anywhere. Anybody knopw what album this was on?

BTW- favorite ispirational tune: "Make His Praise Glorious"

Hey Getuhgrip,
The first two lines are of the same song, "Where There Is Faith". I believe the song was originally done by the group "4 Him". I'm not not 100% sure about that. Just 99.9%.

I don't know about the last two lines. Or about the Twila Paris song. Sorry I couldn't be of more help.

My favorite worship song is "Breathe". Its a simple song I learned that I play and sing mostly when its just myself alone with God.

By the way, I've been meaning to tell you. You have a gift with words in a variety of ways. I've read guite a few of your posts. Some have made me stop and think while others had me laughing my head off. And sometimes its a much needed laugh. Anyway just wanted you to know I appreciate your posts, as I'm sure others do to.

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George
 
Ahhh, Haa!!!! I found your hide-out, George.
I've missed this thread somehow for a long while.
As I posted before, long ago it seems, I have done some Christian songs also.
One was complete and one incomplete, if I remember correctly.
I have not been able to find either one. Boxes of scrap paper, bits and pieces of songs to go through. Tons of stuff. No order.

I just moved and have resigned my self to the fact that if I want that finished song any time soon, I better redo it while I remember some of it.

Good to see this thread is still active.

Got a lot of catching up to do here. :)
 
WOW!:eek:

What an intense thread. I love God. I write christian songs, as well as sing opera. I hope to put the 2 together some day. As far as everything else....I think it has been covered :)

I will just add my agreement to those comments made by my brothers in Christ here. What an encouragement to know that God infiltrates everywhere I look! There are so many topics covered here that I would love to commment on, but this thread took me like an hour to read...and I was skimming for the most part. Now I don't have any time to write, so maybe next time, or maybe I'll start a new thread so the next sap that tries to take this puppy on won't have more to read. ;) .

Hidden IN Christ,

Matt
 
Thanks for the reply George. I think your comments to Muzeman were well spoken .

I also appreciate how the difference in priorities relates to the music. While music has to take a distant seat behind God, family and church in priorities it just seems to me that our very relationship with our Incredible Creator and Savior should inspire us to rise above the worlds standards in terms of quality and creativity.

The again as it says in Isiah "His ways are higher than our ways and His thoughts are higher than our thoughts..."

He does use what is "foolishness" to the world to bring salvation to the world. Sometimes using us to bring that message will make us fools in the worlds eyes but we can not be ashamed of the Gospel.

God bless you George, if your band ever makes it near the Oklahoma City Metro area let me know.

And to Muzeman..... keep writing whats on your heart to write and maybe pray about finding someone locally to work with you on your songs. I am not saying you can't develop some things on line like this but there is some thing about sharing that creative moment in person when inspiration hits and you can get instant feedback as things progress.

Peace to all.
 
HELLO BADGAS!!
Good hearing from you. And no you didn't find my hiding spot because I haven't been visiting HR much lately. A few times I had an opprtunity late at night on the computer, which is in our bedroom. But then I would repeatedly get hit behind the head with pillows being launched from my wife.

But the plot thickens. I am in the process of building my music room. I have gone to great lengths to make it pillow proof. When the room is finished the computer comes with me.

I bought a large "L" shaped computer desk, that came in two pieces that weigh a ton each. The narrowest width of the desk was 30 inches. I had to bring the desk through 4 doorways which were, you guessed it, 30 inches. But only with the doors and door jams removed. I had to load it by myself, unload it by myself, and wrestle it though the house by myself.... well thats not totally true.... the pillow bandit was there with her verble supervision though every step of the operation. "Don't scratch this, ....your going to knock something over .... are you going to finish this today". But when I picked up the hammer to remove the door jams, she left the room in a hurry. I guess she had something else to do. Finally. But I did manage to get the desk in the room. Which by the way will still be there if I ever sell the house.

I'm starting to get a few irons out of the fire, so hopefully it will give me a little more time to talk shop.

Later,

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George
 
I sympathise with you George! My wife prefers to throw cats (the fully clawed variety).

Right now our computer is in the family room and my 21 month old little girl is trying to help me type. My music station is in a closed dresser in the bedroom and I have to spend close to 30-45 minutes just to get the monitors, headphones and instruments out before I can even start setting levels!

By time I get home and eat dinner it takes longer to set up and put back than I get to record. My wife works the weekends so I have the kids.....

If I really work at it I might get an hour or two of recording time in a month.

Hopefully in a few years we can get a house with a dedicated music room and the kids will be more independant.

Good luck with getting your room together I am a little jealous...post a pic if you can after it is done.
 
Hello Matt,
And welcome to the thread. Look foward to your input. Yes, God is great. You couldn't run me off of what I've found in Him with a dirty mop.


Scooter B,
I been thinking about what a friend of mine did with a portable building he made into a music room. He bought some of those foam egg-crate sheets, like the ones that go on a bed, and covered the walls with them. Works great but would kind of clash with the decor of the pillow ninja's domain. But thats okay, because that room will be my domain. And nobody gets in without their retna scan being on file. I'm gonna hang a sign on the door,"IF DOOR IS CLOSED, GO AWAY, QUIETLY".

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George
 
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