ah toker, forgot about that stuff! Thanks for reminding me.
Thanks for returning to debate rather than angry chest pounding Glen!!
Nope, it's not revolutionary or new. Some of this has been almost common knowledge for a long time. You know the thing is, dude... most of what you say I actually agree with in a way, but the thing is: There are some conspiracies that are out there, really truely, though. If you do some hard research there is absolute proof, some of it even from autobiographies of some of these folks. Most of it is just a bunch of greedy SOB's trying to get money, like you said, but.. really that's mostly what the elite of masonry is about, money...power ...more money...more power.... *ejaculation*. They don't really care about anything other than having the absolute power to do whatever they please and make insane ammounts of money. They aren't out to get you or I as their agenda, but their persuits usually do effect us in ways that enslave us, forcing us into lining their pockets, or else we face very severe concequences. There are some that base their business plans on enslaving all of the people below them and robbing them blind, using laws, fear of going to jail, or being fined lots of money, or being homeless etc as their "gun" so to speak. The labels are in no way a conspiracy, nope. Some of the companies that own them are involved with some of the conspirators though, and that's part of why I don't support them (well aside from all the other immoral deplorable business practices) When I say conspiracy, I mean, a group of people all using each other to basically buy out everything and everyone on earth so they have everything and the rest of the world has nothing. It is an agenda, and there are some of these folks working together to make it happen. They might have little squabbles here and there because really they're just dispicable selfish people who care nothing about anyone else, even their commrades. Most of these people would stab their mother in the face if it meant they could make a fortune from it. They use government, they kill people, they do anything they can to ensure this goal happens. I do know that Rupert Murdoch is involved with the masons, but not the other fellow you mentioned. I doubt he is. The thing is, not all of the "movers and shakers" actually are movers and shakers. They might have enough power, but not absolute power. Even the president of the United States is less powerful than some of these people. Dick Cheney certainly is (he is evil scum... no questions asked. FUCK HIM!)
The thing about the federal reserve. Toker is absolutely right. the Federal reserve is a private company, just the same as the IRS. Congress actually couldn't just get out of it that easy. The federal reserve sells the money it prints at face value plus, I think it was 8% interest. THe only way to get out of their contract is to pay off all that interest...The federal reserve has done nothing but further screw America, and even the government, and all those living within it's borders.
Yeah do look at those guys. Read their biographies, find out who they're involved with. One of the few real conspiracies IS freemasonry. There aren't very many outside of that which are actually based in too much truth, a few though. America was originally founded by free masons even. It's a masonic country. the district of columbia, the masonic symbol of the pyramid and the all seeing eye all over the currency, official seals, company logos that have ties to the higher ups in government, etc. Masons do find symbology to be very important. However, remember most masons don't know of this even, only the ones who have gotten toward the top. Is it purely motivated on money? yeah, you bet! The thing is, there are some very influential people who use their positions in society to basically serve the masonic agenda. It's not always the companies or government organizations, or even the governments themselves, in fact I find more people are part of this in the corporate world and governmental involvement is mostly a spillover in politics from big business moguls getting into these high positions of government, because they're high order masons, and America is a masonic country.
What the labels are guilty of is not a conspiracy at all...when I said control, I meant exactly what you said. They want a total monopoly, so taht they can control the entire music market, and funnel any money that anyone spends on any art into their pockets. Sure they SHOULD control their products, that's what all businesses do. You can't control what someone does to it once they've bought it though. If I want to rig that new bitchen zwarski crystal embedded lexus with explosives, piss all over the patent leather seats and then blow the thing to kingdom come, that's my right. It doesn't take any rights from them to download a song. They still have the right to conduct business, and either change with the market or die..which brings me to my next point:I CAN and DO blame them. They have made their businesses so successful from nothing other than shady business practices, and as of lately aligning themselves with some very elite people, beyond governments, that always just happen to be masons, and just happen to follow the same agenda of litterally owning the entire human race. The business of music is changing, as it has many times before. Business evolves constantly, and the cold hard truth about business is you change with it, or you start collecting welfare checks. They are angry because the business model that has secured them so many billions of absolutely garanteed money has to change. You know, honestly it doesn't matter if downloads effect CD sales. Lower the price of CDs, put more into the packaging. Make people desire that product. What they are selling is a disc, not the music on it. The music is an artistic expression, which comes from an artist, not the label. The label's job is to manufacture the media which people will listen to the artists work on. Why not put lots of visual artwork that completes the picture, make the packaging exciting, something that quite frankly you wouldn't have the whole package if you downloaded an mp3. Also, the industry profits, if downloading is in fact effecticing CD sales (Which honestly doesn't seem that it effects it too terribly much), would be more in other avanues. Live performance, for example. Some of these major label artists are charging $90 for tickets to go see them, that's much more than the ammount for a CD... The thing is, for so long these companies have gotten used to doing almost nothing, putting very minimal effort into the product (the actual physical CD and packaging), using legal loopholes and crooked politicians, to get away with tricking the people who actually MAKE the art that they put on their discs into signing contracts that allow them to hardly pay out any money to anyone, and had the money roll in, simply because there was no choices for the consumer other than to get everything sold by them. If there is nothing that entices people to buy the disc, then they are just piss poor businessmen. If the only way they can be profitable is to have a media monopoly, then they honestly lack any real business skills. Look at the child toy market, now those people know how to make people desire their product. Sure, you could just print out your pokemon cards from a computer if the kids really wanted to, or whatever the kids play with now, but no they desire it...it has to be that hot item, because it's just so much more desireable for them to own it. It's marketed, it's got something about it that makes you HAVE to have that product These people are just lazy and expect money just because they always have received it. The business changed, and they won't change with it, so they have three options. They change. They die. Or they fuck everyone over and use the government to ensure their INSANE profits (airline companies and oil companies? heh)
And that's really all there is to that.