Do patchbays degrade the quality of the sound?

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Hi folks....
Im trying to clean up the cable nightmare that i have in my little studio, and i was wondering if one of you could tell me if patchbays degrade the sound at all. I would be interested in getting one, but not at the expense of a clean signal. Any insight and info would be appreciated. thanks, mike
 
Dude go for it, having a patch is so much ezyer(whoa, some spelling) i have a behringer unbalanced bay($35) i havent noticed any loss. Do your homework first, like balanced or unbalnced and shit like that, i planned mine all out for like a week then i whent and got one. i couldent part with it now that i have it.
 
and......

use good quality cords, no radio shack, all my stuff is hooked with 1/2 monster ,1/4 a.c.company, 1/4 peavy. Im working on evrything hooked up with monster cable.
 
thanks 6..... im gonna do just that...
...im off to do some reading, mike:D
 
Guernica,
I, too am considering a patchbay but I have held off because I don't know the difference of normalled, balanced, etc. If that "reading" you're doing is online, can you let me know?
 
I, too am considering a patchbay but I have held off because I don't know the difference of normalled, balanced, etc. If that "reading" you're doing is online, can you let me know?
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Hey Octoruss,
...........you know i was looking for info on just that, and it seems its a bit hard to find. I had a copy of an Electonic Musician mag or something that had a great explanation of it but my wife threw it out........(damned her.....lol)....... ill let you know if i come across something. Please do the same, i would appreciate it. In fact, if anybody out there has that info, I would love to hear about it. thanks, mike
 
I love patchbays, they dont degrade the sound. Just dont buy the behringer! They made a major design flaw, and wired it out of phase!!!! Can you believe it!? So if you ever get any cancellation, you'll know why.
 
Also, normalled, is just two conductor, or unbalanced, the more common term, and balanced, which is the good one, which is used in almost all good recording mikes. Guitars for instance, are usually unbalanced. XLR is balanced in 99.9% of cases.
 
tyler675recpro said:
Also, normalled, is just two conductor, or unbalanced
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... what the fuck are you talking about??? Normalled connections have nothing whatever to do with balanced or unbalanced connectivity...

Normalled connections means the conductors are hardwired internally so there is signal flow even without a jumper............

Don't worry Tyler-rookie - I promise to keep checking your bullshit and clean up after you......... you might as well learn "something" while you spout nonsense.......

:rolleyes:


Bruce
 
Okay, bruce, you win, i was just guessing on that one. But other than that, i know a hell of a lot more than you'll ever know
 
tyler675recpro said:
But other than that, i know a hell of a lot more than you'll ever know
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You really have no idea how idiotic you sound, do you???

:rolleyes:
 
I dont think bruce has anything else to do but follow people that are smarter than him around everywhere, so he can criticise them and make himself feel better. Thats why he has so many posts, he just talks about nothing.
 
Gimme a fuckin' break..............

:rolleyes:

Well... someone's gotta clean up the bullshit you keep spewing all over the forums.........!

You see, I don't think you're clear on the concept of this BBS -- the idea here is to help people by providing the correct (and inherently useful) information on the questions they may have.... spouting the stuff you made-up or the shit you think you know doesn't qualify.............

I've forgotten more than you've ever learned in your entire lifetime, young'un... and I've been doing this professionally since you were a pre-pube, so sit-the-fuck-down... shut-the-fuck-up... and maybe, just maybe, you'll actually learn something, you dumb fuck.........

:rolleyes:
 
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QUOTE: Originally posted by Blue Bear Sound

I've forgotten more than you've ever learned in your entire lifetime, young'un... and I've been doing this professionally since you were a pre-pube, so sit-the-fuck-down... shut-the-fuck-up... and maybe, just maybe, you'll actually learn something, you dumb fuck.........

Motherfucker whent off............ you tell'em bruce! (lol) tyler dont know who hes messin with.
 
DB51..... thanks a mil. bro..... looks like a very informative site.... .........now excuse me, ive got some reading to do.
 
All nonsense aside, and back to the subject... I don't use patch bays.... I know they are handy and they are great for sorting out your cable woes, but I always came from the school, that says the least connections between 2 units is better..... Even if the degredation is tiny, and you don't hear it with your ears..

Im not saying it's the gospel, and Im not saying it;s "right", im just saying, that it's my thoughts on the matter :)



Side Note:

I always laugh when I go into a Project studio, and they have a big giant argosy desk with a relatively small Ghost or Mackie in it, and one side is all patch bays... I mean like 20 of them, and they have like 24-36 "sockets" on each bay, yet only like 12-20 pieces of ouboard gear........ Thats like 500 sockets for 12 pieces of gear... *LOL*

Either they are trying to give the impression that they have a "big" studio, or they just have a fetish for sockets :D


There is a studio in my city, that I was at last week (not recording, just visiting), that is set up like this.... Funny..
 
Re'an

Quick warning though...

I have a Re'an patch bay and I must have gotten a lemon because I swear 25% of the connectors are dead or dying. And I have not been abusing it. So if you're in the market I'd recommend something other than the Re-An.

UnclePonto
 
To answer your original question ..based upon the applications in my studio I would say no...and that would be for an analog patchbay and the digital ones..however I would recommend the balanced ones..the behringer ( the one that sells for under a hundred dollars) is not balanced. I forget the model number on that one but I did return it for that reason. Mars tried to slip one in on me again..

I am currently using the dbx balanced patchbays (I have two) and the Friendchip DMX 12/8..

My real concern was the digital patchbay..but it turns out that this may be the best purchase Ive made for the studio..for insurance I did op for the Genx6 96 just in case ..but have not had to depend upon the external clock at all..

The DMX 12/8 has 6 spdif connectors..and 6 Adat lightpipe connectors..and is capable of streaming 96k 24bit audio on all channels..even on the Adat lightpipe ..although there is not a real need for it due to the fact that i believe the Adat topped off at 20 bits , there are other applications that utilize the light pipe like digital mixers and some audio cards that would benefit from this..
I cannot vouch for its performance in that area because I have not tested it that way.. where it shines above the others in this price range is the ability to patch a single source to eight different destinations ..however you cant patch multiple sources to one destination but i dont think this is possbile in any of the digital patchbays..

This patchbay gets a big thumbs up in my book!

Check it out here www.friend-chip.de/dmx8.htm
 
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