DM24 with ProTools LE - need help

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First thing is, I am a newbie to digital recording and a bit lost in a sea of options, menus, etc. I am having some specific trouble and I'm hoping some of you out there are willing to help me out. Here's where I am:

DM24 midi out to Digi002R midi in.
Digi002R midi out to DM24 midi in.
Firewire from DM24 to Digi.
Firewire from Digi to Mac G5, OS 10.5.8
Using ProTools LE 7.4

I have set up HUI emulation on the DM24 under the Machine Control screen. I finally was able to get it to recognize, and the indicator changed from X to <- ->. The control buttons on the DM24 began to work to play/record ProTools, however, the faders were not controlling the faders in ProTools.

In ProTools under peripherals, I have set up HUI to Receive from the Digi, and Send through the Digi.

I have been told I need to set the DM24 as the Master and the Digi as the Slave. I have no idea where to do that, or how.

I plugged in a mic to channel 1 XLR on the DM24, and can get a level. That signal is not being passed through to ProTools. I tried recording a sample and I'm not getting anything. However, I am getting a level back to the DM24 from the Mac.

Clearly (I think), there is something preventing the audio from passing from the DM24 to ProTools.

Another question I have is, does the Mac Sound preference make a difference? I assume it does, and I changed the audio input and output to the Digi002. However, the FireWire card can also be selected. So which one should it be? When I open ProTools, the sound preferences change, and the Digi no longer appears in the sound preference screen on the Mac, only the firewire card. When I close ProTools, it reappears. Very strange.

There might be many things wrong with my set up...but if anyone has any ideas that can help I would really appreciate it.

Thanks.
 
Welcome :)

I don't know that dm24 intimately but I know protools and the 002r.

Are you running Pro tools 9 or later, cos that has a big impact on how you'd set this up.



The way i see it, audio wise, you wouldn't connect the digi and the DM together via firewire.

They are both interfaces and therefore would both connect to the mac via firewire and be configured as one large aggregate device.
This requires PT9 or later.

If you don't have PT 9 or later, you're limited to the IO of the digi 002 as it's the only thing PT will see as an interface.
This means you'd just have to pipe whatever you can from the dm. (ADAT/SPdif/line level IO)




Control wise it seems you're on the right lines. It's done over midi.
Here's a guide I found that might be useful.
 
Thanks for the reply. I am using PT LE 7.4.

I've read in a few places that if the tascam FireWire card is being used, it can be used to send all your audio channels to PT. That's why I've got it running to the Digi, then FW Digi go the Mac. But, I'm getting nothing do perhaps you're right unless I higher version of PT is being used.

The DM 24 is controlling PT so that part is working.

Strange though: when I plug a mic directly into the Digi, I am still getting nothing.

Anyone else with some experience with the DM 24?
 
OK, i see.
I sometimes forget that firewire daisy chains like that so connecting the DM through the digi should be OK.
I still doubt that protools 8 or less will recognise it as an interface though, but perhaps you're right.
Any one i see in with a similar setup is just using ADAT etc.


Anyway, about getting a signal from the digi:
Goto Utilities/audio midi setup.

Do you see the digi there, or 'coreaudio device'?
If not, you need to install the digi coreaudio drivers from avid.com

If you do see it.
Does Protools let you pick the digis inputs and outputs on your tracks?
If they're not all there, go to setup / IO and go to the input tab. Delete every path then click default and OK.
Do the same for outputs.
 
Yes, I can see the Digi in the audio setup. I can also see the FireWire Card. Seems to me the FireWire should be selected because that's where the audio being carried. The midi from the Digi is handling the HUI info but not the actual audio channels.

I can see all the I/O channels from the Digi in PT setup. In fact it has a small graphic of the Digi on the screen so it is definitely recognizing it. But this tells me it is looking for the 8 channels from the Digi and not from FireWire.

If I ADAT from the DM24 to the Digi, then FireWire from the Digi to the Mac, would this work?
 
Well, like i say, we're at a disagreement over whether or not PT 7 will utilise the firewirecard/dm24 as an interface.

I'm open to being proven wrong, but I really don't think it will.
What you select in audio/midi setup is irrelevant cos PT7 overrides than and uses digi hardware only.

Even PT9 and onwards has it's own method of selecting interfaces which is separate from the audio/midi setup.


The fact that the digi shows in audio/midi setup, and PT sees the digi ins and outs means it should all be working.
Are the input selectors on the digi (mic/line) set to the right thing? Is 48v on if you're using a condenser?

If you adat the dm24 to the digi, then eight channels of the dm24s outputs should show in protools as adat 1-8.
 
Thanks so much for your replies. Like I said, this is all new for me. Sorry, I didn't mean to disagree with you. You absolutely could be correct about the limitations of PT7 LE.

I'm going to try ADAT tonight and hope for the best.

We have a Mackie HDR in reserve that we may go to as well.
 
Ok cool. No problem here.

It's one of those ones where im 99.9% so I didn't wanna state it as fact.

If i'm right, you have adat (48khz max on digi) and spdif which would give you 10 channels from your dm24 at least, plus the 4 mic pres in the digi.

Using digital is where master and slave matters.
I think you set the dm24 as 48khz master and the digi as slave but play around and see how you get on.
You mentioned not knowing how to do that.
This might help.
The full pdf is online.
 
Just thinking.

It kinda seems like you could sell the digi and buy a PT9 license.

Then you'd have one interface, one cable and all your channels available to PT.
Simples :)
 
Any luck

step up to 2013 , I had recently gotten the PRO TOOLS 10 , and thought great it will talk to my dm24 , PT sees the the friewire from the DM 24 and will assign 24 i/o but that's all seemingly no other communication . from What I've read they're also slowly leaving HUI behind
I haven't been able make ANY of that work either , Lost cause except for the adat input ?
Any recent tries ?
 
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