DAW update!!! (#2) P4T-E out, P4P800 Deluxe in!

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Hi,
So Ive decided to start over due to comments from you all and others. Previously I was going with the ASUS P4T-E/2.0a Northwood combo, Ive now seen the light..

So now Im looking into the ASUS P4P800 Deluxe/ Intel P4 2.4c combo. I can get these for
ASUS P4P800 Deluxe $129.99
Intel P4 2.4c $165.00

Its about $100 more than my previous choice, but i get more processor power, and FSB.

Also, I think I can make up for cost with not having to use RDRAM..

Anyone here use this combo with a M-Audio Audio Card?
BTW, Im using a Delta 1010.

So far this is what Im building around:
Windows XP PRO
Western Digital HDD 8mb cache(x2) WD1200JB x WD1600JB
Delta 1010

Any comments, or suggestions are greatly appreciated!

Anyone seen any great deals lately?

Thanks!
 
Good stuff. Those MBs are supposed to rock very hard
 
I got Intel D875PBZ LK($129 www.emicrox.com) for the same price. Intel uses a CSA instead of the Giga Lan that ASUS uses. Lan uses PCI space which is not good for audio processing. I went with P4 3.0 800FSB for $272 from www.pcavailable.com.
I'm using Samplitude Pro and I can record ASIO tracks down to 1.5ms without a hipup.

Chuck
 
There is talk that Asus can get their i865 chipset MBs like the P4P800 to perform on a par with i875 MBs. Something they've come up with called Hyper Path which emulates Intel's PAT technology, found only on the i875 chips. When Intel found out they were none too pleased as they would like to maintain the price/performance premium of the i875 over the i865

http://www.digit-life.com/articles2/asus-pat/index.html
 
The perfornance of the P4P800 is equal to the 875 chip, but Intel CSA does not use the PCI bus for internet connections. ASUS does use PCI. The boards are the same price so why use PCI space needlessly?

Chuck
 
Interesting stuff, thanks everyone!

I'll give it a shot, correct me if im wrong.

"The perfornance of the P4P800 is equal to the 875 chip, but Intel CSA does not use the PCI bus for internet connections. ASUS does use PCI."

I will not use this computer for anything other than editing, and multi-tracking. Would the fact that ASUS uses the PCI bus for internet connections still be problem?

"The boards are the same price so why use PCI space needlessly?"

The boards may be the same price, but the P4 2.4c processor is cheaper($100 less +). Also the P4P800/P4 2.4c combined can be overclocked(without any problems) to the same speed as the Intel/P4 3.0

Again, thanks for all the info!
 
I've never seen anyone serious about overclocking go for an Intel board. Asus or Abit is almost always the choice. Check out the Sharky Forums.
 
You should be happy with that motherboard, especially if you plan to overclock. I've built a couple of systems with that very board, and they're all running over 3.0GHz (both have 2.4Cs) rock-stable.

Normally I'm an Abit guy, but there's nothing at all wrong with Asus.

There is, however, another possible option. The Abit IC7-G Max2 is only $4 more at NewEgg. You get the 875 chipset, a CSA-connected Intel Gigabit Ethernet LAN port, and you maintain exceptional overclocking ability (I've built dozens of systems based on the IC7-G, with varying degrees of ridiculous overclocking). Just a suggestion...
 
"There is, however, another possible option. The Abit IC7-G Max2 is only $4 more at NewEgg. You get the 875 chipset, a CSA-connected Intel Gigabit Ethernet LAN port, and you maintain exceptional overclocking ability (I've built dozens of systems based on the IC7-G, with varying degrees of ridiculous overclocking). Just a suggestion..."

Im new to all this stuff..

As a dedicated DAW could the "Abit IC7-G Max2" yield better results than say the Asus P4P800? If so, could you explain?
Maybe compare pros, and cons of the two..


Thanks!
 
Vox,

"I will not use this computer for anything other than editing, and multi-tracking. Would the fact that ASUS uses the PCI bus for internet connections still be problem?"

For the P4P800, it is recommended to disable LAN. When you need to update, reenable. Also, the RAID 0 P4P800 uses is limited compared to others.

You guys got me into a mobo study. Marquiss is right, Abit IC7-G Max2 seems to be the top "Editors choice" board for now.

I just read that Intel is about to release a new version of D875PBZ LK which will go to 4GB. It will be interesting to see how they treat overclocking in this board. Intel is starting to allow overclocking and they may allow more in this new version.

Chuck
 
Ok, this is some great stuff!
Abit IC7-G Max II might just be the way to go it beats out the Asus P4P800. So I found some stuff about the other Asus (P4C800) Vs Abit IC7-G Max II

Here is a side by side comparison of the Asus P4C800 Deluxe Vs Abit IC7-G Max II. Here they also compare benchmarks with the Intel D875PBZ

http://www.hothardware.com/hh_files/Motherboards/abitic7g_asusp4c800.shtml

If anyone finds a more recent artical comparing these two motherboards Id love to see it. Abit came out with a new BIOS rev since this artical, maybe Asus has done so to?

One thing I find interesting is that the Abit has optical in/outs. Ive never seen this on a motherboard before, anyone know what might have brought this on? Would DAW users be able to benefit from this?

Im not really familiar with optical in/outs, but Ive seen a lot of items for recording musicians implement this. As a matter of fact my Akai DPS12 comes with this feature...hmmm
 
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