creating drum tracks on the PC

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meshuggah

hey nice job. Did you do the bass in fruity too? If so give us some insight and tips on how you arranged the fruity tracks . You are now officially a A FRUITY MASTER :)
 
Meshuggah said:
Fruity Loops is simple, cheap and really good...
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Excellent work!

How difficult was it to get those kind of results with Fruity Loops? Can you do harder rock beats with Fruity?
 
Why have i ruled out a drum machine? Because i don't quite like the idea of having the pads... I'd rather.. hehe... I'd rather air-drum the parts and the put them down on the grid-type dealie that way I can graphically see what hits are where. Also... I haven't seen a drum machine that has a humanize feature... But I may just not be paying attention..
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The Roland R-5 and its big brother the R-8 both have this feature.
It sounds amazingly realistic.
 
Good link, Meshuggah. It was funny to go back and read that stuff. The new version of Fruity has a lot of cool features that really open up its usefulness on drum tracks; if we start a new thread at some point, I'll post some new tricks. Of course, I've gone over to the other side and now I use a real drumset... but I still comp drum tracks in fruity before I head out to the studio to track the real ones.
 
Meshugga,

Man, that was nice! How did I miss this? Don't you post in the MP3 mixing clinic?

Twist
 
I have a couple of clients that build their songs in Reason. They solo out each instrument as a .wav file, burn them all as data and bring them to me. I load them into nuendo, add guitars, vocals, sometimes live bass, etc. Then do all the mixes as audio, not midi, in nuendo. One of them used to use Fruity Loops but has gone to Reason. The sounds are much better IMHO, and he says it's much easier to work with. The music from both is kind of a techno/industrial metal combination. BTW, they are forming a group together!
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I own Reason too, but I find very little use for it. Thankfully it was decently priced, if I had blown $500 bux on it I would be livid. The sounds are no better than Fruity--either one can use any sample you want, which is something people NEVER seem to understand. Folks, if you're just using the samples that came with your software, you're going to sound like 99% of all the other users of that software. In fact, I often use the same samples in Fruity that I use in Reason. It is quite easy to use Reason for very basic stuff, and the Subtractor synth is killer, but it sucks as a sequencer. One of the worst interfaces I have ever worked with.

For drum programming, I don't think the two are even close to comparable; Reason supports only the most basic of features. At the higher end, since Reason doesn't support Soundfonts, VSTis, or DXis, the redrum drum sampler has only the most basic controls, and there is no velocity switching of samples in the drum sampler, it really doesn't offer much for drums except to the techno world. If you are doing any type of music that requires dynamic drums or life-like drum samples, a nice velocity-switched soundfont, or better yet a kit programmed in Battery (a VST instrument) kicks Reason's ass all over town.
 
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