condenser mic?

[pumpkin escobar]

i dont know a whole lot about condenser mics and which one/brand i should buy but basically im looking for one to mainly do vocals but also to mic up an upright piano and acoustic guitar ....if anybody has any good information on one that is basically good all around, i record with a korg d1600 16 track and i want to start doing some good high quality recordings...hopefully it wont be more than 300$

 

[KamikazeKyle]

I've gotten pretty good recordings on several sources out of the Shure KSM 27

 

[scrubs]

Cad M179. At 4040.

 

[Big Kenny]

Cad M179. At 4040.

Hey, that's my line! And don't forget that Rode nt 2a

 

[studiomaster]

I second AT4040..really nice mic for vocals and guitars.
If you want to save a bit more cash, try out the AT3035. I love mine.

 

[pohaku]

You might even be able to find a used AT4050 for that money, but otherwise the 4040 would be just fine.

 

[twostone]

Samson CO2 don't let the price fool your ass these are the best bang for the buck they're equivalent to Oktava MK-012 mics which are dam good mics but if your on a tight budget like myself these Samson"s CO2 rule. Great for acoustic instrument like piano or acoustic guitar also dubs as OH's for a kit, hell they're not that bad on vocals neither these are sleepers that get overlooked because of the brand name. Sometimes brand names doesn't mean quality just hyped marketing sales good luck.

 

[Big Kenny]

Samson CO2 don't let the price fool your ass these are the best bang for the buck they're equivalent to Oktava MK-012 mics which are dam good mics but if your on a tight budget like myself these Samson"s CO2 rule. Great for acoustic instrument like piano or acoustic guitar also dubs as OH's for a kit, hell they're not that bad on vocals neither these are sleepers that get overlooked because of the brand name. Sometimes brand names doesn't mean quality just hyped marketing sales good luck.

They are not equivalent to Oktavas, self noise alone is 22 to 17db. They might be usable but there is no reason to make a comparison where none exists other than they are both sdc's and really not a good choice for vocals (though on occasion I have used an Oktava on vox, it is the exception rather than the rule)

 

[twostone]

See what I mean Pumpkin a gear snob all those CO2 mics sucks and you can't compare them with Oktava's I remember when Oktava's were consider a POS now look were their at. BK numbers don't mean shit here in the real world, Just like a lot of mic shoot outs this brand mic rules because so&so used it on this project, if they would do real world shoot outs like bring the mics to, lets say your home studio or my home studio or so&so's home studio then compare the results it might be believable. And yes their comparable with MK-012 we've compared them with the MK-012 and the CO2's are incredible mics for the price.

 

[blueroommusic]

CO2's are incredible mics for the price.

*WARNING* this is not good advice!!!! do you work for Sam Ash or something? Samson products are cheap, & unreliable. I used to work for those schmo's, and had to deal with about 20 customers a day calling about malfunctioning gear.

That being said, Big Kenny is right...Neither of those mics are good for vocals.

 

[Big Kenny]

Why the hostility goof? We both have opinions and you are welcome to yours (ill advised as it is), but lighten up pal, I'm just sharing my experience.

 

[twostone]

I'm defensive because I'm tired of gear snobs that don't even own or try the products they ditch my point was they're great mics for the price if your on a tight budget didn't say they were the best mics for the job. and I guess my old S11 of 5 yrs is unreliable that I used for countless live gigs and been drop a few times but still works great um just amazes me how gear snobs jump to conclusions on certain products because of the name . I could say the same about Mackie it's nothing but a over priced Behringer because I bought a new mixer that went dead in 3 mos. I think not my friend most stuff is done on a assembly line. Some companies have better quality control then others but their will always be human error where some of the stuff came off the line bad but still passed QC such as the case with my mixer but I don't ditch Mackie because of the error.

 

[Big Kenny]

I'm defensive because I'm tired of gear snobs that don't even own or try the products they ditch my point was they're great mics for the price if your on a tight budget didn't say they were the best mics for the job. and I guess my old S11 of 5 yrs is unreliable that I used for countless live gigs and been drop a few times but still works great um just amazes me how gear snobs jump to conclusions on certain products because of the name . I could say the same about Mackie it's nothing but a over priced Behringer because I bought a new mixer that went dead in 3 mos. I think not my friend most stuff is done on a assembly line. Some companies have better quality control then others but their will always be human error where some of the stuff came off the line bad but still passed QC such as the case with my mixer but I don't ditch Mackie because of the error.

I'm not a snob, i just don't like people passing their opinion off as fact. You like it, great! Oktava is far from snobby gear, it is, however, head and shoulders above Samson CO2.

 

[warble2]

I've gotten some good mileage out of my CAD M177 (single pattern version of the M179). I was surprised at the quality on vox. I also have a MXL V67g, but wouldn't necessarily recommend it - I just have one because it can be used on some sources, but I wouldn't rely on it as a "go to mic".

Couldn't recommend the Samson for vox, as I usually reach for large diaphragm condensers for vox. Maybe they would have a use for guitar miking though - don't know. Personally, I think you'd be surprised with the CAD mic (either M177 or M179) on guitar. For that particular application, I'd opt for the M179.

 

[antispatula]

i dont know a whole lot about condenser mics and which one/brand i should buy but basically im looking for one to mainly do vocals but also to mic up an upright piano and acoustic guitar ....if anybody has any good information on one that is basically good all around, i record with a korg d1600 16 track and i want to start doing some good high quality recordings...hopefully it wont be more than 300$

I bought 2 ADK Hamburgs at a totall price of like 350 dollars...go for 300 new, but ebay and classifieds are the way to go! nearly EVERYTHING in my signature was done with the Hamburgs. They sound great on vox, piano and guitar.

 

[twostone]

BK your still missing my point and yes they're great mics for the price not that their same as Oktava's but they are comparable with the Oktava's jeez all I said if you aint got a lot to spend on condenser these would be a good choice. And the fact is they work great for a variety of things I don't give a dam WTF you say they're the best condenser in their price range any other brands in that price range suck. Are you stuck on stupid or what?

 

[cannabis]

Samson CO2 don't let the price fool your ass these are the best bang for the buck they're equivalent to Oktava MK-012 mics...

you said they're equivalent (your opinion)

kenny said they're not (his opinion)



seems you're the one stuck on stupid

 

[Robert D]

"Oktava MK-012 - the SDC for gear snobs on a budget"...... I like it!

 

[jowillie]

Do really check out the ADK Veinna and Hamburg. Total rants and raves from those using their unique qualities.

 

[twostone]

Well since I get scorned for trying to save the guy a few bucks another suggestion would be a Rode pretty much a standard in home recording or probably get slammed on this to. Hell even a dam SP B1 are not bad the truth is 3 bills isn't a lot for a condenser mic personally I would use a ribbon over a LCD or SCD but you notice my opinon aint shit here your recorder pres aint the best and so just about any brand of LCD or SCD . Until you start investing in 3-5k for single micpre API Great River and 10K for A/D converters with link cards and 50k on a console that's when your gonna start noticing which mic sounds like shit.