Completely off topic: Myspace

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bongolation said:
I just looked and you have the dread BRICK WALL PHOTO, which means that someone is going to submit your picture to www.rockandrollconfidential.com where you'll be ragged on forever and ever and ever... You better fix this fast!

There's about two hundred brick wall musician shots on their site with appropriate comments. The other thing never to do is do a band photo on a railroad track, the other great cliche. Hey, someone got a brick wall AND railroad tracks in a single picture!:p

Hey, theres no bad publicity.

H2H

railroad tracks you say? Well, it did only go Platinum. :)
 

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Hard2Hear said:
Hey, theres no bad publicity.
Tell it to Michael Jackson. :p

On the other hand , you don't want to wind up like this.

railroad tracks you say? Well, it did only go Platinum. :)
Since when did lame cliche impede success? Still, that shot is PURE RockAndRollConfidential fodder, you gotta admit! :p

I love that site. It's my favorite music-related page on the net by a factor of about ten. It's as perfect an advanced class on rock-image "don'ts" as you'll ever, ever get anywhere. Hundreds of examples!
 
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Hard2Hear said:
Perhaps you like this picture better?:
http://music.gospeedinc.com/bathroom.jpg
Because you're a bro, I'll give you a little bit of big-time music business advice that is worth quite a bit more than what you'll pay me for it:

If you consider yourself a serious musician, a serious act, never let anything lame touch your presentation. I put literally hundreds of indy acts on the Manhattan garbage scow straight to the Staten Island Landfill because of lousy presentation.

Everyone in the business assumes your act is as lame as anything associated with it. Clueless picture/pose/outfit=clueless act. That's the whole crux of the R&RC site, right? You've already been dismissed as a clown act by the time anyone even hears you.

Guy, do a real picture, OK? Spend some time going through the rockandrollconfidential site to get a clear idea of what NOT to do. Find someone with a decent camera and a bit of skill as a photog and have him or her spend a little time doing some real shots. You're a solo act, so maybe you can do with finding a good spot in your house with nice indirect lighting, use an improvised fill reflector to tailor it for the most flattering effect and just do an afternoon's worth of classic promo head & shoulders shots, maybe with the optional guitar head sticking up in the corner. PhotoShop the best one to perfection. I say an afternoon's worth, because it'll probably take you an hour to get relaxed enough to do a good, natural-looking shot (check R&RC for a hundred or so examples of unrelaxed hilarious shots). If this seems unimaginative, it's not. It's industry standard for any solo act and a good photographer will make it show who you really are -- and also consider that on these websites, you're working with such a small picture that you get lost in some elaborate full-body shot. PhotoShop up a really good B&W version for newspaper reproduction for the "playing this week" entertainment section of whatever publication you're in or for display ads of your gigs. Do not -- I repeat NOT -- let your wife or girlfriend choose the final picture for you.

This is no-brainer stuff. It amazes me what a huge majority of musicians never give it a second's thought.

Good luck!
 
I had a ton of real live promotional stuff done when I was signed to a pretty major label. Pro photographers and all that crap. Any people I really am interested in looking good to don't browse the web looking for people. I have a press kit done by management who have managed countless gold and platinum selling artists. Did you notice I was gone from this board for a couple years? Yeah, thats what was going on.

I've already been there, done all that. I'm not interested in getting involved with it again. This is for me for now and my friends and family. I'll still do the studio work and fill-ins I do, and if I decide to tour regionally, I have the promoters and contacts to do that.

ymmv
H2H
 
bongolation said:
Because you're a bro, I'll give you a little bit of big-time music business advice that is worth quite a bit more than what you'll pay me for it:

If you consider yourself a serious musician, a serious act, never let anything lame touch your presentation. I put literally hundreds of indy acts on the Manhattan garbage scow straight to the Staten Island Landfill because of lousy presentation.

Everyone in the business assumes your act is as lame as anything associated with it. Clueless picture/pose/outfit=clueless act. That's the whole crux of the R&RC site, right? You've already been dismissed as a clown act by the time anyone even hears you.

Guy, do a real picture, OK? Spend some time going through the rockandrollconfidential site to get a clear idea of what NOT to do. Find someone with a decent camera and a bit of skill as a photog and have him or her spend a little time doing some real shots. You're a solo act, so maybe you can do with finding a good spot in your house with nice indirect lighting, use an improvised fill reflector to tailor it for the most flattering effect and just do an afternoon's worth of classic promo head & shoulders shots, maybe with the optional guitar head sticking up in the corner. PhotoShop the best one to perfection. I say an afternoon's worth, because it'll probably take you an hour to get relaxed enough to do a good, natural-looking shot (check R&RC for a hundred or so examples of unrelaxed hilarious shots). If this seems unimaginative, it's not. It's industry standard for any solo act and a good photographer will make it show who you really are -- and also consider that on these websites, you're working with such a small picture that you get lost in some elaborate full-body shot. PhotoShop up a really good B&W version for newspaper reproduction for the "playing this week" entertainment section of whatever publication you're in or for display ads of your gigs. Do not -- I repeat NOT -- let your wife or girlfriend choose the final picture for you.

This is no-brainer stuff. It amazes me what a huge majority of musicians never give it a second's thought.

Good luck!



yeah but like he said..if youre a serious musician on MYSPACE looking to get signed, that's pathetic.....myspace is lame as hell, i hate it, and only have it bc every retard teenage girl is all 'omfgz hehehee u should get it heheehe' and im like stfu whatever...no but like the music part is something that shouldn't be taken seriously on myspace...i mean, check my music one, its such a joke:
http://www.myspace.com/3892267
 
I just had a genius idea.

I'm goinna get my photographer and clone every terrible band photo ever made and put it on my website! I'll be sure to get lots of brick walls and tran tracks in there. This is goinna be great! :) THIS is what music is all about fellas! fun.

There was a time I couldn't have said that, not too long ago.

H2H
 
Hard2Hear said:
Yeah, but the effect that being on the receiving end of that incessant tide of lameness for me was that now I just can't let details like that slide. I just cringe. If it isn't pro-grade, it just hurts, y'know? :( If it isn't slick, I'm not interested in it.

As they say, "it may be because you don't care, but it looks like it's because you don't know."

I'm goinna get my photographer and clone every terrible band photo ever made and put it on my website!

The makeup, sequins and fake blood are gonna get stuck in your goatee super bad, man! :D

There's also the plain fact that there's stuff so awful that it's impossible to parody beyond what it already does to itself. Bad band photos are in that category, I'm pretty sure, so it may be a total waste of time to try.
 
ZoSo58LP said:
yeah but like he said..if youre a serious musician on MYSPACE looking to get signed, that's pathetic..
Sure, but what is the point of being on there anyway?

That's a very sincere question and I'm kind of stumped. The only thing I can see is that you give people a chance to steal your material.

In any case, I wasn't trying to just suggest that this was a big attempt at stardom (yes, MySpace is hardly a great springboard for that) so much as wondering why would anyone do something half-assed anyway. If you put something out at all, why not do it in a way that reflects who you are as a musician? If it isn't worth doing right, why bother in the first place? It degrades you.

I can look stupid any time I want with no effort at all in the privacy of my own home, so why would I go to the trouble of setting up a web presence to do it in front of more witnesses? :D
 
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