Combining SONAR & Fruity Loops

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Hi guys,

Maybe a stupid question. But since having both Fruity Loops 3.0 and SONAR 2.0 I want to make the best use out of it. I'm not that computer-intelligent, but I do make some pretty cool stuff on both Fruity Loops and SONAR (only audio, no MIDI).

No here's my problem. I want to use SONAR to master my Fruity Loops creations (mixing down, some eq., bit of compression on drums, etc.). I've made WAV-files out of the Fruity Loops songs (1 for the snare, 1 for hihats, 1 for the guitar, etc.), but this is a bit to weighty for SONAR. There must be a way to achieve this, but how???
 
What do you mean by "This is a bit weighty for Sonar"? Sonar should handle that fine.

I'd say the best way to use FL and Sonar togehter is to insert FL as a VST in Sonar. For that you need to upgrade FL to 3.5 (no problem, it's free for registered users) and get a VST-to-DX wrapper, such as the one from www.fxpansion.com. I haven't done it my self, but do a seach on this forum for FL and Sonar and it's bound to come up...

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Thanks Moskus! I'll try that.
The problem with SONAR is that as soon as I load my WAV-files I get the message 'Audio stopped' and SONAR is not responding any more.
I've tried to make the WAV-files smaller but even that didn't work. I've been working with smaller samples in SONAR and that worked pretty well (though as soon as I add some effects SONAR will drop out).
 
Seems like you have the latency set too low. Go to Options -> Audio and set the latency slider a litte more to the right, towards safe.

What soundcard do you have? If it's a SB Live or Audigy, you'd better of setting the latency to around 100 ms.
 
I'll try that too. Settig the latency slower doesn't have any negative effects?
I don't have a highly sophisticated soundcard, so that will be part of the problem.
 
As long as you're only dealing with audio and you don't use any softsynths and the like...

Other than that, no really. Just look in the help files for latency.
 
I do use softsynth, but I don't play them via MIDI-devices. So that won't be a problem.
 
I'm sorry Moskus, but setting the latency a bit safer didn't work. SONAR keeps crashing as soon as I'm loading 2 or more WAV-files...
 
Well... hmmm... Sonar can handle 2 wavefiles darn well (on my system anyway). Have you tried to load non-FL waves?
 
Are FL waves different? When mixing guitar-lines in already existing wave-files (and therefore only using 2 stereo waves on seperate channels) SONAR tends to be a bit slow, but it works.

Normally I use SONAR for arranging samples, which are much smaller wave files. But in some songs I use up to 40 channels. And that works pretty well.
 
I don't know FL that well... are they "acidized" when they're exported?

I don't get it. If they are exported as a normalo wave file (check FL), then Sonar should really have no problem.
 
Not that I know. I have to check that out (I'm on work right now). But was does 'acidized' mean?
 
Some waves have "looping-information" saved with them, meaning when you open them in Acid or Sonar, it will open as a Groove Clip.
 
Thanks, Moskus. That was the tip I needed. FL saved the tracks acidized. Now I'm ready to master the stuff!
 
I was recently having the same problem. I even went as far as re-installing SONAR and my soundcard driver. But it ended up being that full 4 min. wav's were being save with groove info in Fruityloops and this made SONAR sputter after loading about 3 of them.
 
Those little rascals at Image-Line Software. I was about to give up SONAR and change to Cubase...
And lee miran, does the trick work? I mean mastering FL-tracks in Sonar?
 
It definitely works!

Most of the stuff I compose are intrumental beats for rappers and singers. I do the bulk of that using softsynths and soundfonts in Fruityloops. I usually mix right in FL and render to wave and do any finalization in SoundForge or CD Architect.

I bought SONAR however because I wanted to start producing local acts and have the ability to laydown vocals and session musicians. So if I'm going to add vocals or other instruments in the mix, I'd rather export from FL and import the subsequent wav's into SONAR, add the vocals and mix it all there. I feel this way I have more control over the entire mix.
 
Great! 'cos that's what I also want to do this way: adding some nice guitar and bass parts to my down-tempo creations.
 
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