Check out this poll!!! Epiphone or squire?

[ibanezrocks]

I like the Epiphone myself. Squire is not real. There was no Squire back in 1950s. Epiphone was real. They were great guitars back then. They are still around and still real. I have one and I love it. The people at Harmony Central like it too.

the people at harmony central like everything

 

[ocnor]

I think the EPI is better for smashing on the stage like Pete Townsend but the Squires burn better when pulling a Jimi hendrix.

 

[SG1965]

If we are considering Gibson equal to Fender, than much of Epiphone would be the Fender Mexican's equal, in terms of price. Also, since i havent owned a squire i always remember i ordered 5 American Deluxe Strats and returned them before i got one without a problem. I finally made one good one by putting two together. Im not ragging on Fender, i love the strat, but their quality control could use some work.

 

[guitarboi89]

Epiphone
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[SHEPPARDB.]

What do you mean am i kidding? I'm dead serious. i play an epi. sg obviously and it could take down any squier any day. Esacton said it all.

Taking down a Squier is no claim to fame.The truth of the matter is that
both suck.Good enough for a beginners price range,but I dont know of
a single serious musician that would seriously consider either.

 

[ibanezrocks]

Taking down a Squier is no claim to fame.The truth of the matter is that
both suck.Good enough for a beginners price range,but I dont know of
a single serious musician that would seriously consider either.

hahaha watch it there sheppardb, you might just get some idiots trying to give you negative rep points. I just got an angry message for my posts in this thread, only the guy didnt have the balls to sign it, and he had no rep power so it didn't matter.
I forgive him though, he's just emotional because he can't afford more than 200 dollars on a guitar to move out of the squire price range.

 

[turnitdown]

Yugo or Daewoo???

New discussion... which is better????

Seriously, that's what this whole thread is like....

With the exception of the original Made In Japan Squiers, these guitars are like Yugos and Daewoos... People use them because it's all they can afford, *NOT* because they are the best they can find... That's okay, as they progress musically, they get better gear... that's just the way it is...

I guess I get more negative points for this post...

 

[nkjanssen]

Taking down a Squier is no claim to fame.The truth of the matter is that both suck.Good enough for a beginners price range,but I dont know of a single serious musician that would seriously consider either.

Bingo! It's amazing how much garbage people on this board play and love. To each his own, I suppose. Once you've played some actual nice guitars and gotten out of the shithole of cheap crap, the differences become really obvious.

That said, if you just need a starter guitar, get either a hollow-body Epi, and replace the nut and tuning heads, or get a MIM tele or strat. Either of those will do you fine to learn on and can be an acceptable backup guitar when you get something better. Squire? Never.

 

[turnitdown]

Aww.... Come on..... Who gave me the negative rep cause of my last post??????????

 

[ibanezrocks]

don't worry about it, I got some more too. this idiot saying he gave me negative points because I like Ibanez not because I said Squire sucks and that I should go get a better guitar, apparently this turd will read all my posts and give me negative rep a minute after I post, but won't put in the effort to read in my signature that I have a gibson sg standard.

 

[turnitdown]

Squiers and Epi's are incredible guitars...

Guys like Lynch, Vai, Va Halen, Malmsteen, Clapton just wish they find one.....

They are hard to find in their parts of the world.

That's the only reason I can think of, that they wouldn't play them....

 

[Incanus]

Epiphone.

But it's like what jimistone said. A 'good' Epi is better than a 'good' squier, but it costs a good deal more.

 

[acorec]

Epiphone SG's are really amazing guitars, especially for the price. From the SG's I've played theres not a huge difference between the Gibson Sg and the Epiphone.
As for Squires, big difference. Then again, the only squires I've played have been badly looked after 'coz there only Squires.
I'd still go with the Epiphone though. I love the Epiphone SG!

I have a 1970 SG custom and a 1998 SG standard. I also have a Les Paul Standard and have owned many SGs and Les Pauls over the last thirty years. Now, I only point this out to say that all I have ever played were the real thing (as these Epi SG and Les Pauls did not exist back then). I tried out a ton of Epi Les Pauls and SGs and I could tell instantly that it is nowhere near a true Gibson Les Paul Standard at all. They are completely different guitars.

Are the Epis bad? No. They are unique though. If you like how they feel, then it is a guitar for you. If you want to play a gibson and like the feel, then the Epis are not what you want.

I always laugh when I hear guys explain the difference between Gibson Les Pauls. The Standard has an overall feel of a good Les Paul and the lower priced models feel different. The body, neck and weight are different. I tried the "1960" Les Paul (the cheaper Les Paul) and I could tell immediately it was not a Les Paul Standard. The "1960" Gibson Les Paul does feel like the Epi Les Pauls though. But the "1960" Les Paul does not feel like the Les Paul Standard or Custom.

 

[gibsonguy09]

epiphone all of the way!!! i like Gibson's better than fender. Also i own an epiphone and it plays way better than squire.

 

[chazba]

tOUGH cALL

I once owned a MIJ Squire that had EMG's (s-s-h) that was an incredible guitar. Perhaps the best strat neck I have ever played ( maple f.b.) I currently own an Epi Emperor Regent, sort of a J Smith knock-off, that really captures the vibe of the fat bodied electrics of the '50s. Great tone and feel, very well made. it did take a little tweaking to set up, but now is a treat to play. I also have a MIJ strat, candy-apple, from the early '80's. Made for japanese consumption, the quality is beyond similar vintage USA strats
The only strat I have played that felt as good or better was an ULTRA w/ ebony f.b.It had been set up by a true master and I wanted it soooobad. A true case of slut-lust.To sum up, I really can't say which is better. Apples and oranges?? Do ya think????

chazba

 

[Mikey likes it!]

Gee, I'd keep the Epiphone, myself, but this has a lot to do with the fact that I would generally choose a Gibson over a Fender. That's not a criticism of Fender, they just don't fit my hands. The worst are strats, I'm a heavy rythym player, and the only Fenders I really like are teles. I've seen some Squier strats that were playable, but every Squier tele I've ever picked up sucked bigtime.
I've got a lovely Epi SG with a perfect neck and a set of shiny upgraded humbuckers that I wouldn't trade for an American Tele, let alone a Chinese knockoff! Some guy in Indonesia simply got it right or got lucky. I went through 15 of them to find this one.-Richie

I agree. I have a sweet little Epi Les Paul Deluxe - it's the best guitar I've ever played. Perfect balance, great tone, nice finish, and the neck fits my hand perfectly. (Mikey does like it! )

I hate Strats also, so you're not alone. I learned to play on an acoustic, and a Strat is too far away from the feel of that neck. They just don't feel like guitars to me.

STRAT LOVERS: Let the war begin...

Okay, as to the question, EPIPHONE!

Every single Squier that I have tried SUCKED!

 

[hiwatt357]

With either brand, you play before you buy.
With either brand, you can get an awesome bang for the buck.
With either brand, you play before you buy.
With either brand, you can find diamonds hidden in piles of glass.
With either brand, you play before you buy.

See a pattern here?

I probably agree with this reply more than any.

I had an Epi Les Paul for a short period of time that I bought used for $100.00 (and it was like a "Standard"...sunburst, arched top, etc.), and it was ok...but the build quality felt really, really cheap...as though if I were to wail on it hard, the neck would snap off in my hands. On the other side of the coin, I've played an Epi Hellkat that felt awesome (shame I didn't buy it, but didn't have the funds). But I've also played Hellkats that felt like crap.

And I do feel that the comment about the $100.00 Epi's is correct...they're consistently pretty crappy feeling/sounding...at least to me they are (here again it's a matter of personal preference).

Keep in mind...I love Gibsons. I have three Gibson Les Pauls, so it's not like I'm a Gibson hater. And I'm not necessarily a Fender lover, either. I have two mid-60's Duo-Sonic II's that I love, but I've never played a Strat that I totally dig. And Strats really aren't good for really heavy playing (not that I play grindcore or anything...just saying in general)...I can't palm mute well with one either due to the volume knob location.

But I bought a Squier '51 in February, and I liked it so much I bought another one last month...along with a Squier Tele Custom (the one with 2 humbuckers). Got both for a little over $300.00 total new. I think the build quality, for the money, is great. Although, I had to return the first '51 due to a wiring/switch issue...the humbucker wasn't coming on. But, as usual, the pickups are the weak point, but they seem a little better made than the Epi's I've checked out recently in the same price range. I also kinda accidentally acquired a Squier Stagemaster (along with a Marshall practice amp...both for $100.00 total) with the intention of keeping the practice amp and selling the guitar. But...the Squier actually sounds pretty decent.

So, again, I agree with Treeline's reply.

It's all personal preference, and with inexpensive guitars, it's hit or miss.

EDIT: I've gotten compliments/remarks regarding my tone on "untitled 2" on my threefiveseven myspace music page, and it was tracked with one of my Squire 51's using a Digitech Genesis 1, so...you just never know.

 

[erosconpollo]

Perhaps the Squiers could better be compared to the cheapest line to come from Gibson...yes, the Kramers! Which I don't knock, since I own one and it's not all that bad.

 

[thehymns]

On stage, I think the name on the headstock is important. I don't think many people want to be on stage with a Squire in their hands. Epiphone have a little bit better reputation. I like the Casio's, I'll probably buy one someday. I have an Epiphone Cortez from the early 70's, and people seem to shrug it off when they come into the "studio" because it is an Epiphone. That thing sounds better then any Hummingbird I've played from the same period. Everytime I post about that guitar it reminds me how I need to get some odds and ends done to it...I bet the thing while sound like an angel once it has a proper set up and what not.

 

[ibleedburgundy]

this is a no-brainer. Epiphones are at least comparable to Gibsons. Squire's are not at all comparable to an American strat.