CC 11 problems

[SergeD]

Hi,

I discovered a big annoying inconvenience about CC 11 (expression) in HS 2002.

For example, a note is drawn in the piano roll from 1:02:000 through 1:02:479

A followed CC 11 is applied starting at the value 127 and ending to the value 30 from 1:02:000 through 1:02:479

At 1:03:000 a CC 11, having the value of 127, is applied to reset the full expression of the channel

But the velocity note last with the full 127 value at 1:02:479. To avoid this ending velocity jump the 127 value must be drawn at about 1:03:060

Any thoughts about this ?

Thanks in advance,

SergeD

 

[James Argo]

Hi there, SergeD
It's not actualy HS2002 problem I mean, I think the note you draw must have decay / sustained tail as a nature of it's original sound. If you 'cut' the note in say 1:02:479, and applied CC11 value 127 to reset the level to original again on the measure/tick too close to that point (near 1:02:479), then it will affect the tail of the note you drawn. When the measure/tick goes to 1:03:060, then the decay has rolled out already, thus you don't hear the level jump. I might be wrong anyway, hope it helps
To avoid this things, I suggest either just place the CC11 value 127 NOT to close to the tail of the note drawn (as you describe by putting it on 1:03:060), or set different track / channel assigned to same bank / patch and devide your sequenced MIDI track so they can be controlled separatelly.


Jaymz

 

[SergeD]

Thanks James,

But you know my old Digital Pro orchestra sequencer does not have this problem and work nicely with CC 11.

I consider it's a real issue when you try to put expressions in many close succeeding notes. CC 11 for many musicians is the most important control.

I will report this to Cakewalk.

SergeD

 

[SergeD]

Hi James,

Midi-ox helped me to have a total control over the CC11 attitude.

In the translation map window a CC7 (Velocity control) output set to 0 is sent for each input NoteOff. For each NoteOff input a CC7 output set to 127 is sent.

Of course this work only for succeeding notes with no chords in the used channel. But it saves from a lot of plumbing !

If you're concerned with those experimentations some Cal files and the Midi-Ox translation map file could be available.

SergeD

 

[James Argo]

If you're concerned with those experimentations some Cal files and the Midi-Ox translation map file could be available.

Good idea, I'll try it soon... Thanks for the idea


Jaymz