Cant stand my marshall

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I do have a twin verb ( at my disposal) and even a nice low noise A/B switch, but i cant really do it live at the the moment cuz its it use. I wanted an all purpose amp for live aplications, fro recording ive got a bunch of stuff i can use anytime. and i no longer own the pod, it was sold a long time ago during a very desperate couldnt pay the rent period in my life (so sad)

but on that note, why not A/B/C through the best of everything? but thats tons of money, i dont know theres options out there, ill get it figured out!!
 
Myriad_Rocker said:
This thread makes me gas for an MTS.....screw you NL5.
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Got one sitting right behind me on loan from one of the bands I record and it's fan-fucking-tastic.
 
Farview said:
Yet you bought none of those amps. Tube amps tend to be one trick ponies. Even amps that will let you dial in a couple different sounds normally won't let you switch between them. If you really want a diverse set of sounds, the Pod is the way to go. I would send the pod through either a Marshall or Mesa power amp. It makes a BIG difference.
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You want diverse sounds w/o a crappy modeler? Get an MTS amp - it's the ultimate "modeler". :D Certainly not a one trick pony. It's the next best thing to owning 20+ EXPENSIVE amps......
 
NL5 said:
You want diverse sounds w/o a crappy modeler? Get an MTS amp - it's the ultimate "modeler". :D Certainly not a one trick pony. It's the next best thing to owning 20+ EXPENSIVE amps......
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Yep, it's by far the coolest, most versatile amp I've ever had in the studio and if it's good enough for Michael Wagener it's good enough for me.
 
I am willing to trade a 30 watt Behringer guitar amp, straight up for the Marshall, that you seem to want to get rid of. :D I mean, every Marshall needs to be in a good, loving environment. They get depressed if you speak bad of them. :cool:
 
jonnyc said:
Got one sitting right behind me on loan from one of the bands I record and it's fan-fucking-tastic.
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What modules? How does it sound? Can you compare it to it's modeled counter parts?
 
yeah i checked this randall doohicky on the official site, and it seems like a good idea in theory, but it also seems like a gimick, other than "it fucking rocks" what about it makes it so great, i get the concept, but is it built well? will the line be around in five years when theres a breakdown? are there any bugs in the system? etc...etc....im very very inersted in the concept, both for live application and to have a shit load of amps for ohter band to use in the my studio when there stuff sucks.
 
Chris Jahn said:
yeah i checked this randall doohicky on the official site, and it seems like a good idea in theory, but it also seems like a gimick, other than "it fucking rocks" what about it makes it so great, i get the concept, but is it built well? will the line be around in five years when theres a breakdown? are there any bugs in the system? etc...etc....im very very inersted in the concept, both for live application and to have a shit load of amps for ohter band to use in the my studio when there stuff sucks.
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It's already been around for some time. Probably about 4 or 5 years. Even before then, Bruce Egnater was doing them.
 
Myriad_Rocker said:
What modules? How does it sound? Can you compare it to it's modeled counter parts?
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It sounds great. Does it sound EXACTLY like the amps it's modeling. Not quite, but pretty damn close. Way better than a "pod" for sure. I have a 20B though, so I'm stuck with el84 output tubes. Most of the amps being modeled either have 6L6's or EL34's. So, if you got the RM-4 preamp, and matched it with the 50/50 poweramp (6L6's on one side - EL34's on the other), you could come even closer.

Chris - the line has been around for quite a while - it was started by Bruce Egnater. The Eden modules are slightly better built, but I have only had one minor problem with one module, and I think it just had a faulty tube.......

For studio work they are unbeatable IMHO, unless you can afford the all actual amps. Live, they should be fine too, although you would need something with more channels than my 20B.
 
So i looked up more info, but it was kinda hard to decipher with all the zZounds, guitar center nonsence.

So mabye those who know can answer a few questions about this wonderful beast of an amp.

it looks like there are two options, both for about $1,600, each comes with three amp modals, the choice is yours to start with. then you can buy a bunch of other options to switch out, but it only hold three at a time, yes?

and what i really want to know is does it chanel switch between the three, like three differnt distinct sounds LIVE all at your feet, it seems like it would logically, but nothing i read just said that.
 
Chris Jahn said:
So i looked up more info, but it was kinda hard to decipher with all the zZounds, guitar center nonsence.

So mabye those who know can answer a few questions about this wonderful beast of an amp.

it looks like there are two options, both for about $1,600, each comes with three amp modals, the choice is yours to start with. then you can buy a bunch of other options to switch out, but it only hold three at a time, yes?

and what i really want to know is does it chanel switch between the three, like three differnt distinct sounds LIVE all at your feet, it seems like it would logically, but nothing i read just said that.
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Dammit, I just typed a long response and FF dumped it! V2 sucks!

Anyway, yes they can be switched like any other amp. I would look at an RM4 and a 50/50 amp. That would give you up to 4 channels of preamp, and the choice of output tubes - which will make the modeling that much better.

Do a search for them over at GS. Michael Wagner is the one that turned me onto them.
 
Chris Jahn said:
yeah i checked this randall doohicky on the official site, and it seems like a good idea in theory, but it also seems like a gimick, other than "it fucking rocks" what about it makes it so great, i get the concept, but is it built well? will the line be around in five years when theres a breakdown? are there any bugs in the system? etc...etc....im very very inersted in the concept, both for live application and to have a shit load of amps for ohter band to use in the my studio when there stuff sucks.
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I've been running one for the last few months and I honestly don't want to let it go. I can't say whether the modules sound exactly like the counterparts but they sound like I'd imagine they should if that means anything. It took me a couple days getting used to it and getting it dialed in but once I did I was loving every minute of it. It seems very well built. Like I've said before, if it's good enough for Michael Wagener it's good enough for me.
 
ooooooohhhhhh, i was only looking at the heads, not the rack setup, so its a box that takes four of the modules, and then a seperate power amp, easy enough, but then i need to buy four freakin modules on top of the $1700, but i guess it could all be done a bit at a time, thanks, makes mor sense now, i was looking at the wrong head, the all in one head that takes three modules!!
 
i would sudgest a Boogie Mark IV. Balls to the wall and old fart at the footswitch.
 
I had the JCM900 and Personally thought it sucked......

I returned it in exchange for a 5150.

5150's are sweet but they dont get too loud before the sound craps out on you.

But for the last few years I have been using a Line 6 Pod Pro with a Bellari 562 Sonic Exciter.

Its basically like a BBE but has a 12ax7 Tube in it.

I used to power it with a Mesa Coliseum 300 200 Watt Per Channel Tube Power Amp.

Sounded Amazing.

Then I didnt want to spend $300 changing tubes in the poweramp and bought a QSC RMX850.

I actually get just as much Volume with the QSC but I had to readjust my tone a bit to make up for losing the Depth and Presence of my Mesa Amp.

But never the less, the Bellari Made up for the tube sound.

Lately I have been slaving the Line 6 through the Return jack of a Madison Divinity 100 Tube Head.

Sounds great.

Maybe you can try slaving your Line 6 into the Marshall using the Tube head as a Poweramp.

In the end, you might be better off selling the head and getting a Marshall 9200 Stereo Power Amp.

Those things sound awesome and are loud as hell.

If you don't want to use the Line 6 at all, I would sell the Marshall Head and get a Peavey 5150II, 6505+,Triple XXX, or JSX.

They run used at good prices if you check around.

I picked a Triple XXX up off of Craigslist.org for $500.

I am sure it was worth at least $800 off of Ebay.

Thats what I would do in your situation.
 
Chris Jahn said:
ooooooohhhhhh, i was only looking at the heads, not the rack setup, so its a box that takes four of the modules, and then a seperate power amp, easy enough, but then i need to buy four freakin modules on top of the $1700, but i guess it could all be done a bit at a time, thanks, makes mor sense now, i was looking at the wrong head, the all in one head that takes three modules!!
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You can find the 100watt heads filled with modules used for around a grand.
 
I assume you mean the head that fits three modules, not the rack mount with seperate power amp???
 
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