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Simplex09
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Ok how do you get the lowends ? Mic the edge of the speaker? From what i have read on the internet its center = high edge captures lows
LazerBeakShiek
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So make a video , and show everyone that nirvana distortion...mic placement levels equipment order ..........show the render settings too.
No VST shit!
No VST shit!
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LazerBeakShiek
It is a life preserver
I challenge you! ......................Rich , Rob, 60s guy everybody ..put up.
60's guy
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? I said "HUGE" tones. I didn't say "PERFECT" tones.
There are literally hundreds upon hundreds (if not thousands) of internet articles and videos concerning mic positioning when recording an amp. Reading and watching YouTube videos is simply fine, but the key to successfully recording an amp within your own room (or on stage) is experimentation.
An additional plus is a playing a perfectly tuned guitar.
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Simplex09
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Yes! I understand what you mean now. Just to test it I added more lows in cakewalk through eq, I don't think that's the 'right' way to do it "just fix it in the mix" but I wanted to try it. So now I'm going to try to figure out how to get more lows when recording.
Which I believe
center = high
edge = lows.
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RFR
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You really need to focus on just the basics.
I don’t believe mic placement is your big issue.
From the last clip I don’t think you even have a good sound in the room to capture.
1) playing is a bit choppy. Some out of tune issues, some timing issues. Sounds like you need to practice more.
2) every time you kick in the DS1 it sounds horrible. Fizzy, thin, way over distorted, not to mention you have a volume drop compared to the clean guitar.
Get your playing up to par, get it sounding good in the room, and then worry about mic placement.
TimOD
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Our band direct injects all the electrics (and the other guy's acoustic also), after either going through an old Line 6 Pod xt (me) or some distortion and delay pedals (the other guy). I Can't imagine doing it differently. We monitor on headphones. No dicking around with mic placement or setting up amps, or "shoot-outs" over what sounds better. This is by necessity as much as anything else: we have day jobs, and need to maximize out time, but even at home at my studio I use another Pod xt with the same settings saved in the Pod, augmented by various pedals for effects (I rarely use the Pod's effects, though they are certainly useable). I do have miked-up amps in the studio, and I occasionally play through them just for a change, but I rarely record them.
This is not to say it isn't worthwhile or even vital to mic up an amp. I just think it's a personal preference at this point in time, with convenience and plenty of versatility making the use of emulations a perfect choice for me.
This is not to say it isn't worthwhile or even vital to mic up an amp. I just think it's a personal preference at this point in time, with convenience and plenty of versatility making the use of emulations a perfect choice for me.
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Simplex09
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Thanks for the feedback after listening to the last sound file I uploaded last night I understand why it sounds bad now. Here is another sound file I recorded tonight I tried different things so capture the lowend better like putting the amp in the corner. I also started to use the direct monitor output on the scarlet solo so you can hear what the mics are capturing without recording and listening back.
rob aylestone
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Nope. Still sounds thin and weedy. Tell you what. Take some pictures. Have you removed all the bass end?
How about taking a video with your phone? We all now seem to think the issue is what you sound like in the room, and you are capturing it pretty well, as in you have chopped then bottom off. We dont think its amp or mic now, just something unusual you are doing to the amp eq, or the processor. We are guessing. Help us out. Did that clip really sound different to you? Its worse than many of the others, tizzy, bright and thin. Unless you are hearing differently to us?
How about taking a video with your phone? We all now seem to think the issue is what you sound like in the room, and you are capturing it pretty well, as in you have chopped then bottom off. We dont think its amp or mic now, just something unusual you are doing to the amp eq, or the processor. We are guessing. Help us out. Did that clip really sound different to you? Its worse than many of the others, tizzy, bright and thin. Unless you are hearing differently to us?
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Simplex09
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Ok thanks ill grab a video in a bit
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Simplex09
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Here you go! Had to upload the video to YouTube. I tried to mess around with the mic postions and i use the direct monitoring and i can live view the eq on the pc and no matter what I do the lowend dosent go any higher
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Eric Malone
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A video of a stationary picture. ok.
The 'clean' sound is almost ok until you hit a bit harder, then it's terribly harsh sounding on the breakup. The OD sound is out of this world, in a bad way.
I've owned a few twins and none of them sound like this one with even random knob settings.
Not sure what to tell you, but this I can say for sure - this is not a microphone, preamp, or mic placement issue, unless there is something fundamentally broken about them.
I haven't read the entire thread, but what type of guitar are you playing?
EL
The 'clean' sound is almost ok until you hit a bit harder, then it's terribly harsh sounding on the breakup. The OD sound is out of this world, in a bad way.
I've owned a few twins and none of them sound like this one with even random knob settings.
Not sure what to tell you, but this I can say for sure - this is not a microphone, preamp, or mic placement issue, unless there is something fundamentally broken about them.
I haven't read the entire thread, but what type of guitar are you playing?
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Simplex09
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Fender classic player Jag modded to be like Kurt Cobains. I'm also wondering if it has to do with the guitar cable its a fender cable that's maybe about 8 years old but its cutting out quite bad now
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Eric Malone
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Do you have any other electrics to try? I'd be hard pressed to make an electric sound like that through a twin unless something was inherently wrong with the guitar or amp.
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Simplex09
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Here was another clip recorded with a Fender Strat Single Coil MIM 2015. I'm wondering if its the cables because the amp has a bit of a hum only when you have any cables plugged in.
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RFR
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At least turn off the bright switch on the amp.
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RFR
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Ain’t the cable, it’s either gonna pass signal or it won’t. And it seems like you keep doing the same thing. SD1 still sounds horrible. Did you even watch the “that pedal channel” video I posted earlier and make changes to your settings?
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Eric Malone
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Always a good idea to keep an eye on tubes, but...
Has this amp always sounded the same to you? More importantly, does the recorded version of your amp sound the same
as you playing in the room with it, or radically different?
EL
Has this amp always sounded the same to you? More importantly, does the recorded version of your amp sound the same
as you playing in the room with it, or radically different?
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Simplex09
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Well its very hard to say because its the first twin reverb I played and I have only had it since July. But if the tube has the click click sound then it should be bad?